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Perhaps it was someone’s way of saying “ take this job and shove it”.
I have more questions than answers

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Even you must realize that when you're going on 2 weeks, it is obviously not the highest priority. Any half ass technician could rebuild that server in an afternoon. I don't know the company but somewhere it was stated they had 6 or 7 major sites go down they were responsible for.
Is there any evidence they brought up their other websites before weldingweb? And yes bringing up a webserver could be a quick task. But reconstituting data might not be. And you are assuming the issue is technical and not financial. I dont think you know as much about hosting as you think you do.
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aland wrote:
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Even you must realize that when you're going on 2 weeks, it is obviously not the highest priority. Any half ass technician could rebuild that server in an afternoon. I don't know the company but somewhere it was stated they had 6 or 7 major sites go down they were responsible for.

This tells us that those other sites were much more important than WeldingWeb. If you're loosing revenue, the bean counters will be even less happy...I'm pretty sure they will get around to it when they can, it's not as if nobody is letting them know that people are waiting patiently for WeldingWeb to come back up.

I wouldn't want to be in their shoes...somebody has been in the fire for going on 2 weeks...and that is no fun...my condolences to whoever that may be... :cry:

Alan
I actually have no idea how long it takes, but I wish they would finish because there's a lot of excellent information on that website. :)

But, for all I know it's been sold and some new owner is deciding what to do with it :?:
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MinnesotaDave wrote:But, for all I know it's been sold and some new owner is deciding what to do with it :?:
Good point, and for me also, I have no clue why the server hadn't been up for almost 2 weeks, I was merely going by what you said previously in the following post. For all I know that isn't even the case. I can think of a lot of "for all I knows...", but will refrain from comment as it seems nobody really knows what happened. And, for all I know, the servers are still up and a router went down... :lol:
Never liked the "D" handle router, too bulky for my tastes. Plunge routers are OK, but a little heavy and awkward for many tasks.

New one hand routers are small and cute - easy handling for little jobs.

That's the extent of my router knowledge :D
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I bought the Dewalt router with three bases. But I mostly leave it attached to the router table.
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Poland308 wrote:I bought the Dewalt router with three bases. But I mostly leave it attached to the router table.
I'm looking to buy a router table for school. Sometimes it looks like it would be easier for younger kids.
I have a 7th/8th grade wood shop class.

Can't decide if that would be safer, or more dangerous, than using the regular router though.
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There’s a huge range of bits available for the dewalt. There’s even one multipak called megabits


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MinnesotaDave wrote:
Poland308 wrote:I bought the Dewalt router with three bases. But I mostly leave it attached to the router table.
I'm looking to buy a router table for school. Sometimes it looks like it would be easier for younger kids.
I have a 7th/8th grade wood shop class.

Can't decide if that would be safer, or more dangerous, than using the regular router though.
Every hand held tool is very hazardous. I've spent a lifetime using the biggest hand held drills on the market at the time. The only injury I ever suffered was of my dignity one day when a 4-1/2 " hole saw on a 18" arbor went errant, and swallowed my pants. Not a drop of blood was shed that day, but I'm not mentioning embarrassment.

A year and change ago I observed a counter man in a plumbing supply store struggling to put an auxiliary handle on a compact cordless drill. I was amused. A little drill like that won't require an extra long handle. Ten minutes later, I bought two of them. The first time I used mine with a 4" hole saw cutting through multi layers of sheathing boards, clapboards, lath, and plaster, sheetrock, I injured my rotator cuff in my right shoulder. Adding the auxiliary handle, and trying again, I finished off my rotator cuff. A year plus later, I'm back to normal.

Tools are dangerous, Without coaching, tools are very dangerous. Personally, based purely on logic, a stationary tool seems less hazardous than one that can swing around, engaging flesh.

There was a show on television called, (I recall) Real Stories Of The E. R. There was a man standing on a ten foot tall step ladder, It sat on uneven ground. Reaching over his head, probably too high for his ladder, he used a Hole Hog, a Milwaukee drill notorious for injuries. The auger bit, made for wood was 18" long, 1" diameter. His ladder gave way, he fell, and the still running drill drove the auger in his eye, and out the top of his skull.

Miraculously, he survived, and will spend the rest of his life with coloring books, and crayons.
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PS: I'm sort of saying that whatever happens at Welding Web will happen without us. They haven't opted to confide in us. They will, or won't be back. In the meantime, no thread ever was more ripe for a derail.

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**** New update ****

THIS JUST IN FROM FIX IT CENTRAL IN NEW YORK..

We have not forgotten about you. The IT team is literally piecing our sites back together one by one, and byte by byte, from the failed SAN array. It’s obviously a catastrophic issue.
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from the failed SAN array. It’s obviously a catastrophic issue.
Wow...completely preventable.
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2 + 2 generally = 4.
Penton hasn't been able to make a thin dime on WeldingWeb in a couple years.
I seem to recall a comment from some executive mood eraser over there that Penton had turned the site over to the Mood erasers to run. Penton probably finally figured out they made a bad buy back in 06 when they bought Welding Web.

Penton operates a truckload of sites, many agriculture and some trucking. Something happened and the whole place crapped.

As of yesterday the trucking and agriculture sites are back up and running with no apparent loss of content.

As of now, 2 sites that didn't make Penton money are still down with the same message.

I have my doubt content of Welding Web and the other similar site was lost. Fact is I'll bet a whole Dime if and when somebody makes a financial offer to Penton that content can be bought, but I don't figure Penton will ever host or provide WeldingWeb again unless somebody pays them an insane price to do so.

Maybe Penton will bring it back as some sort of subscription site for those willing to pay to play.

Way back before most of you came along, WeldingWeb was a dead backwater with 3 members when an affirmative action employee of Indochina Thug Works supervised Hobart Expert ROCK walking the plank on a Friday afternoon before driving her all important self home. When she came to work Monday Hobart's board was pretty damn empty, and Welding Web was the hottest site in the family of Lawnsite, Plowsite and Welding Web. Things went well for a while till the fool who bragged about dropping a barn on himself and the Bobcat he was running got the idea he could put a fat kid with a weed wacker in charge. He coined the term Garbage Gang, and watched Welding Web become what Penton bought cheap.

Penton's been through Bankruptcy since then and is probably on their 3rd team of college boys playing with keyboards and business models. My money says they're playing suckers to see if a buyer pops up.
Welding Web is just another shop that closed leaving some good men figuring out how to get their toolboxes out.

Between fools with phones smarter than they are and clouds, most sites are crapping out anyhow, not enough people smart enough to read need BookFace and videos for conventional sites to stay in business.
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So what are the best options for a welding forum now? I like this place but it’s a bit sparse. Are there other good ones? GJ fab subforum? Millerwelds forum? As a newbie I was learning a ton from WW.
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jwmelvin wrote:So what are the best options for a welding forum now? I like this place but it’s a bit sparse. Are there other good ones? GJ fab subforum? Millerwelds forum? As a newbie I was learning a ton from WW.
I go on tractorbynet.com sometimes.
It's a little sparse too, but has some interesting conversations.
The other sub-forums there are really large with lots of new stuff to learn about.
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The Hobart forum is still as dead as a door nail. They haven't had much activity since they started blocking porn spambots a few months ago.
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This forum will grow as it fills a void. It is a great group poised for greater content. Here, I've always wished more experts would contribute. For his own reasons, Jody is not an active participant here. Nobody will ever accuse this site of being top heavy.
I wonder if some people at Heavy Equipment Forum smelled what was coming, there have been suggestions of a welding sub forum there. Like Welding Web, Heavy equipment forum is mostly amateurs. There are experts, but they are outnumbered by those seeking information. I find HEF to be a great group of people, maybe even more uninformed than Welding Web.
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Bill Beauregard wrote:This forum will grow as it fills a void. It is a great group poised for greater content. Here, I've always wished more experts would contribute. For his own reasons, Jody is not an active participant here. Nobody will ever accuse this site of being top heavy.
I wonder if some people at Heavy Equipment Forum smelled what was coming, there have been suggestions of a welding sub forum there. Like Welding Web, Heavy equipment forum is mostly amateurs. There are experts, but they are outnumbered by those seeking information. I find HEF to be a great group of people, maybe even more uninformed than Welding Web.
I hope it does. I ended up here when Welding Web went down.
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Here's hoping we don't attract too many from WW. They have theirs and we have ours, is what I've heard.
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Here's hoping we don't attract too many from WW. They have theirs and we have ours, is what I've heard.
Probably not true. There are a lot of people on this board and in this thread who frequent both sites. I think its just a matter of most have been more active on WW than here.
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Well I found my way over here by searching on "what happened to welding web". Been following the situation by reading on the HEF, Tractor and Miller forums also.

Had signed up on the Miller forum along time ago (at around the time I signed up for Welding Web) but couldn't remember what screen name or password I used. Couldn't start a new account because it said that my email address already had an account associated with it. Tried doing the "forgot password" thing several times but it's not generating and sending me an email like it's suppose to be doing. If any one here knows how to bring that to the attention of the admin (or one of the moderators) over there I'd appreciate it.

Still hoping the situation at Welding Web gets sorted out but in the meantime.......
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From head moderator Zap
ATTENTION IN THE PITS!
ATTENTION IN THE PITS!

Word is that all Penton websites will be back maybe tomorrow..(Monday)...
Welding web members stay tuned...
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