Re: Whats the deal over at Welding Web?
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:29 pm
Yea, so that's why I have backup's.
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True, but in the age of cloud, why even have a server anymore? Put it all up in the cloud, get 99.99 server availability and 99.99999 data durability, for much less than the cost of buying a server or traditional hosting. it is super easy and dead simple.It’s shocking to think someone has a web site in 2018 without a backup.
One phrase I like is "There is no cloud, it's just someone else's computer."Louie1961 wrote:True, but in the age of cloud, why even have a server anymore? Put it all up in the cloud, get 99.99 server availability and 99.99999 data durability, for much less than the cost of buying a server or traditional hosting. it is super easy and dead simple.
Actually it is a valid distinction. I work for the world largest cloud provider. The way we engineer for durability across multiple availability zones, the self healing of servers, and the autoscaling really make it much more than just somebody else's computer. We could lose entire data centers and your web site won't ever go down. The way our cloud is built is actually quite amazing.But you seem to be distinguishing "traditional hosting" from "the cloud." I'm not sure that's a valid distinction
We don't do backups in the traditional sense (tapes, and what not). We keep multiple copies of your data in object stores across multiple geographic regions. Recovery can be instant, near instant or somewhat delayed, depending on the class of object store you want to pay for. But our object store pricing is about half the cost of a traditional backup.Traditional hosting is the cloud and should include backups.
I had some fun with that too.Warrenh wrote:I spent a week twisting his tail. It became like a sport. Livingstone I mean. LolMinnesotaDave wrote:Haha!mechanic416 wrote:That's not nice Dave, you want to get Livingstone all upset
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Maybe he got a new Zapper...a Kim Dong Too Short model 3 and leveled the place. The first couple days the outage site showed a red dot over my house so I was thinking I was a ZapeeBill Beauregard wrote:Zap went snowmobiling, and forgot to pay the light bill.
Zap welding with anything but old American iron would scare me...kind of like invasion of the body snatchers...what pod did you hatch out of??!! LOLMaybe he got a new Zapper...a Kim Dong Too Short model 3
I could have built a building faster.MinnesotaDave wrote:** update **
I've been told progress is being made on the website issues
Pretty much everyone has, who cares.Antorcha wrote:I could have built a building faster.MinnesotaDave wrote:** update **
I've been told progress is being made on the website issues
Actually, I have
Hit a raw nerve did he?MinnesotaDave wrote:Pretty much everyone has, who cares.Antorcha wrote:I could have built a building faster.MinnesotaDave wrote:** update **
I've been told progress is being made on the website issues
Actually, I have
I'll be sure to pass along that their computer work is slower than putting up a building... Wait, no i won't since they have nothing to do with each other...
Not really, just don't like himBill Beauregard wrote:
Hit a raw nerve did he?
Is there any evidence they brought up their other websites before weldingweb? And yes bringing up a webserver could be a quick task. But reconstituting data might not be. And you are assuming the issue is technical and not financial. I dont think you know as much about hosting as you think you do.Even you must realize that when you're going on 2 weeks, it is obviously not the highest priority. Any half ass technician could rebuild that server in an afternoon. I don't know the company but somewhere it was stated they had 6 or 7 major sites go down they were responsible for.
I actually have no idea how long it takes, but I wish they would finish because there's a lot of excellent information on that website.aland wrote:
Dave,
Even you must realize that when you're going on 2 weeks, it is obviously not the highest priority. Any half ass technician could rebuild that server in an afternoon. I don't know the company but somewhere it was stated they had 6 or 7 major sites go down they were responsible for.
This tells us that those other sites were much more important than WeldingWeb. If you're loosing revenue, the bean counters will be even less happy...I'm pretty sure they will get around to it when they can, it's not as if nobody is letting them know that people are waiting patiently for WeldingWeb to come back up.
I wouldn't want to be in their shoes...somebody has been in the fire for going on 2 weeks...and that is no fun...my condolences to whoever that may be...
Alan