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Re: Whats the deal over at Welding Web?

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:26 pm
by jwmelvin
@Louie1961 I appreciate your points. I do agree that “backup” takes many forms and duplication is a valid backup scheme when geographically diverse.

I agree that “cloud” implies some degree of sophistication more than just a “Web host.” I maintain that there is a huge range of what people call a “cloud” service. While Amazon may have excellent practices in this regard (as does I believe BackBlaze, etc.) I would be surprised if everyone is as competent. Are there any standards for what can be called a “cloud” service?

The “someone else’s computer” was tongue-in-cheek.

Re: Whats the deal over at Welding Web?

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:19 pm
by Bill Beauregard
Zap went snowmobiling, and forgot to pay the light bill.

Re: Whats the deal over at Welding Web?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:26 am
by PeteM
Warrenh wrote:
MinnesotaDave wrote:
mechanic416 wrote:That's not nice Dave, you want to get Livingstone all upset :lol:
Haha! :D
I spent a week twisting his tail. It became like a sport. Livingstone I mean. Lol

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I had some fun with that too. :lol:

Re: Whats the deal over at Welding Web?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:44 am
by Antorcha
Bill Beauregard wrote:Zap went snowmobiling, and forgot to pay the light bill.
Maybe he got a new Zapper...a Kim Dong Too Short model 3 and leveled the place. The first couple days the outage site showed a red dot over my house so I was thinking I was a Zapee

Re: Whats the deal over at Welding Web?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:53 am
by Louie1961
Maybe he got a new Zapper...a Kim Dong Too Short model 3
Zap welding with anything but old American iron would scare me...kind of like invasion of the body snatchers...what pod did you hatch out of??!! LOL

Re: Whats the deal over at Welding Web?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:44 pm
by LtBadd
Well, they now have a pardon our dust page up... :)

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Re: Whats the deal over at Welding Web?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:51 pm
by metalman21
That's better news than the complete black-out. I've seen it happen before and in one case the had to start over from scratch.

Re: Whats the deal over at Welding Web?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:28 pm
by aland
[never mind]

Re: Whats the deal over at Welding Web?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:04 pm
by Poland308
Just like life! Loose it all. Start over and make something new.

Re: Whats the deal over at Welding Web?

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:07 pm
by MinnesotaDave
** update **
I've been told progress is being made on the website issues :)

Re: Whats the deal over at Welding Web?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:59 am
by Antorcha
MinnesotaDave wrote:** update **
I've been told progress is being made on the website issues :)
I could have built a building faster.
Actually, I have :roll:

Re: Whats the deal over at Welding Web?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:42 am
by MinnesotaDave
Antorcha wrote:
MinnesotaDave wrote:** update **
I've been told progress is being made on the website issues :)
I could have built a building faster.
Actually, I have :roll:
Pretty much everyone has, who cares.

I'll be sure to pass along that their computer work is slower than putting up a building... Wait, no i won't since they have nothing to do with each other...

Re: Whats the deal over at Welding Web?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:50 pm
by Bill Beauregard
MinnesotaDave wrote:
Antorcha wrote:
MinnesotaDave wrote:** update **
I've been told progress is being made on the website issues :)
I could have built a building faster.
Actually, I have :roll:
Pretty much everyone has, who cares.

I'll be sure to pass along that their computer work is slower than putting up a building... Wait, no i won't since they have nothing to do with each other...
Hit a raw nerve did he?

Re: Whats the deal over at Welding Web?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:55 pm
by MinnesotaDave
Bill Beauregard wrote:
Hit a raw nerve did he?
Not really, just don't like him :D

Re: Whats the deal over at Welding Web?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:17 pm
by aland
[never mind]

Re: Whats the deal over at Welding Web?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:45 pm
by Poland308
Perhaps it was someone’s way of saying “ take this job and shove it”.

Re: Whats the deal over at Welding Web?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:27 pm
by aland
[never mind]

Re: Whats the deal over at Welding Web?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:21 pm
by Louie1961
Even you must realize that when you're going on 2 weeks, it is obviously not the highest priority. Any half ass technician could rebuild that server in an afternoon. I don't know the company but somewhere it was stated they had 6 or 7 major sites go down they were responsible for.
Is there any evidence they brought up their other websites before weldingweb? And yes bringing up a webserver could be a quick task. But reconstituting data might not be. And you are assuming the issue is technical and not financial. I dont think you know as much about hosting as you think you do.

Re: Whats the deal over at Welding Web?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:52 pm
by aland
[never mind]

Re: Whats the deal over at Welding Web?

Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:49 pm
by MinnesotaDave
aland wrote:
Dave,

Even you must realize that when you're going on 2 weeks, it is obviously not the highest priority. Any half ass technician could rebuild that server in an afternoon. I don't know the company but somewhere it was stated they had 6 or 7 major sites go down they were responsible for.

This tells us that those other sites were much more important than WeldingWeb. If you're loosing revenue, the bean counters will be even less happy...I'm pretty sure they will get around to it when they can, it's not as if nobody is letting them know that people are waiting patiently for WeldingWeb to come back up.

I wouldn't want to be in their shoes...somebody has been in the fire for going on 2 weeks...and that is no fun...my condolences to whoever that may be... :cry:

Alan
I actually have no idea how long it takes, but I wish they would finish because there's a lot of excellent information on that website. :)

But, for all I know it's been sold and some new owner is deciding what to do with it :?:

Re: Whats the deal over at Welding Web?

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:01 am
by aland
[never mind]

Re: Whats the deal over at Welding Web?

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:59 am
by MinnesotaDave
aland wrote:
MinnesotaDave wrote:But, for all I know it's been sold and some new owner is deciding what to do with it :?:
Good point, and for me also, I have no clue why the server hadn't been up for almost 2 weeks, I was merely going by what you said previously in the following post. For all I know that isn't even the case. I can think of a lot of "for all I knows...", but will refrain from comment as it seems nobody really knows what happened. And, for all I know, the servers are still up and a router went down... :lol:
Never liked the "D" handle router, too bulky for my tastes. Plunge routers are OK, but a little heavy and awkward for many tasks.

New one hand routers are small and cute - easy handling for little jobs.

That's the extent of my router knowledge :D

Re: Whats the deal over at Welding Web?

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:02 am
by Poland308
I bought the Dewalt router with three bases. But I mostly leave it attached to the router table.

Re: Whats the deal over at Welding Web?

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:05 am
by MinnesotaDave
Poland308 wrote:I bought the Dewalt router with three bases. But I mostly leave it attached to the router table.
I'm looking to buy a router table for school. Sometimes it looks like it would be easier for younger kids.
I have a 7th/8th grade wood shop class.

Can't decide if that would be safer, or more dangerous, than using the regular router though.

Re: Whats the deal over at Welding Web?

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:58 pm
by Coldman
There’s a huge range of bits available for the dewalt. There’s even one multipak called megabits


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