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Home welder

Postby Jackstrw68 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:58 am

Hello new to the forum. I am a diesel mechanic by trade and have experience Mig welding. Typical truck shop stuff, lift gates, brackets, frames, light fab stuff, etc. I've never owned my own welder and now want to purchase one. I am torn between getting a multiprocess inverter machine or individual machines for each process. I like the basic Hobart 210 machine a lot and also the Everlast machines look nice. My question is how is the reliability with the cheaper multiprocess machines and are they worth the money? I like simple and reliable but want something I can grow into. I plan of doing a lot more aluminum projects at home besides truck and fab work. I use a Millermatic 210 at work. Thanks for any advice.
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Re: Home welder

Postby Farmwelding » Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:17 pm

Welcome aboard. What your plan is depends on what you want to weld aluminum with. Mig or tig. If I was you I would get a powermig 210mp and a lincoln squarwave 200. That is just me though. They are both great machines.
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Re: Home welder

Postby bruce991 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:26 pm

Have the Everlast 160 sth not an AC unit but does fine job TIG and stick for me. Also have the Lincoln Squarewave 200 and it does have AC and DC so I am learning to weld aluminum. It has been a pleasure to own and highly recommend. I think it will even do 1/4 material non critical of course not sure it penetrates deep enough for critical frame welds.
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Re: Home welder

Postby Farmwelding » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:41 pm

I guess maybe for you the better option is get the squarewave for tig and stick and then a dedicated mig machine like the Hobart 210
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Re: Home welder

Postby ryanjames170 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:52 pm

I would say it would depend on your budget.. if your on a unlimited budget i would say get a few difrent machines for each process so you have leave them set up for a given task.. but if your budget its more limited i would spend the bulk of your money on the process you know you will do the most.. After that pick up what you can.. if you can only really aford 2 machines.. get something that can do aluminum tig.. and they get something that can do wire and stick welding. as both will come in handy from time to time..

i prsonly go heavier on Stick welding as alot of stuff i do i am forced to do outside.. and it also opens me upto welding more then one type of steel out side.. hence why my stick welder will blow the pants off my wire feed..


Biggest thing is spend the most money on the machine that is going to do what process you are planning to do the most.. weather it be TIG, MIG, Stick. and if your planning to do TIG aluminum make sure it has a few good AC tig functions and a GOOD duty cycle at the amperage your going to be welding in most often... its not a good idea to get a machine that you will always be maxing out..
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Re: Home welder

Postby Jackstrw68 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:09 pm

Thanks for the advice. Yeah i know ill need alot of use on the truck repair side so id definitely use a mig process. I was just looking at the Thermal Arc 181i 3in1 machine online. For around 900$ it seems to do alot. These are its specs im seeing.

Processes: MIG (GMAW/FCAW), Stick (SMAW), TIG (GTAW)
Rated Output: 180A/23V @ 20% Duty Cycle, 145A/22.5V @ 30% Duty Cycle
Max. Open Circuit Voltage: 62V DC
Amperage Range: 10-180 Amp
Wire Feed Speed: 100-650 IPM (2.5-17.7 m/min)
Weight: 32.2 lbs. (14.6 kg
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Re: Home welder

Postby Jackstrw68 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:12 pm

Ah just noticed i think the fabricator 181i is just DC only.
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Re: Home welder

Postby Jackstrw68 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:17 pm

My budget is pretty tight. Id like to spend no more than 1500$.
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Re: Home welder

Postby Farmwelding » Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:24 pm

Jackstrw68 wrote:Ah just noticed i think the fabricator 181i is just DC only.

Yep almost all multiprocess machines are DC only. You can weld aluminum with a spool gun but you may want to learn aluminum tig. With the thermal arc 180, the duty cycle seems really low at 180 amps. Have you looked at the powermig 210mp. A little more expensive but a phenomenal machine and a better duty cycle.not much better but 25% at 200 amps will help. You might want to look at a multimatic 215. I've heard it's pretty good to. They are all under your $1500 price range to. Just make sure to show around for lower prices and small deals. Welding supplies from ioc has a $15 off deal when you sign up for their email list. Not much but every little bit helps.
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Re: Home welder

Postby Jackstrw68 » Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:41 pm

I found a lincoln squarewave 175 for 1k $ online. That seems like a pretty good machine. Any experience with it?
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