I got a bicycle from a neighbor that has a pedal stripped out. I'm looking for suggestions on how to repair it. I don't know what type of aluminum it is. What filler rod would people suggest? I'm thinking that I would weld the entire hole and re-drill and tap it. I've never made this type of repair and feel that there would be some ideas from folks that have done this before.
Thanks for your suggestions.
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You sure that's not a steel nut contained in the casting? Kinda looks that way. Either way, I'd be tempted to Heli-Coil it, I think.
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Just have in mind that side has a left hand thread.
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I did a quick look, but didn't learn what alloy a crankset usually comes from. I believe there is a particular filler metal to use if you're not sure of the base alloy- someone will come back with that info, I'm sure.
In the mean time: do you already have the taps required for this? It may be a specialized deal specific to the cycling industry. BTW The left-side pedal has reverse threads to prevent the pedal from un-threading itself while riding. I saw the proper taps from Park Tool for $35. And looking at how worn the teeth are on those chainrings (the tops start out life as square), I looked up replacement cranksets at Nashbar.com and they start at $30. If the threads are too badly FUBARred to use and the bike just isn't worth the time and effort, you might consider just welding the spindle into place (if the metals allow).
What's the make/model for your bicycle?
In the mean time: do you already have the taps required for this? It may be a specialized deal specific to the cycling industry. BTW The left-side pedal has reverse threads to prevent the pedal from un-threading itself while riding. I saw the proper taps from Park Tool for $35. And looking at how worn the teeth are on those chainrings (the tops start out life as square), I looked up replacement cranksets at Nashbar.com and they start at $30. If the threads are too badly FUBARred to use and the bike just isn't worth the time and effort, you might consider just welding the spindle into place (if the metals allow).
What's the make/model for your bicycle?
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Left side crank will have a left handed thread. It will be an odd combo of diameter and thread.
Don't start or price the job until you have the tap in hand.
I don't want to make a filler recommendation because I don't know the alloy but for sure that part is heat treated up to T6 temper. You will need to have the part re heat treated after welding if you don't want further failures.
If you could find a helicoil for that thread that would be the easiest way to go.
Here are pedal taps
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/us/e ... &gclsrc=ds
Well, how about that, there are repair bushings
http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-hel ... -section-1
Put down the torch and Step away from the welder and use the bushing repair kit.
Don't start or price the job until you have the tap in hand.
I don't want to make a filler recommendation because I don't know the alloy but for sure that part is heat treated up to T6 temper. You will need to have the part re heat treated after welding if you don't want further failures.
If you could find a helicoil for that thread that would be the easiest way to go.
Here are pedal taps
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/us/e ... &gclsrc=ds
Well, how about that, there are repair bushings
http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-hel ... -section-1
Put down the torch and Step away from the welder and use the bushing repair kit.
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Yeah, I got it wrong. Stand corrected in shameexnailpounder wrote:The left side has reverse threads
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I haven't worked on a bicycle since I was a kid so I have no idea what the hell I am talking aboutAndersK wrote:Yeah, I got it wrong. Stand corrected in shameexnailpounder wrote:The left side has reverse threads![]()
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Thanks everyone for your replies to this thread. I wound up returning the bike to my neighbor. It was going to be a free job and I prefer not to do jobs if I can't do them right. Finding and sourcing tools and supplies turned out to be too expensive, and my neighbor did not want me spending too much on this. Getting new cranks seems the way to go for around $50 and I'll let my neighbor decide if he wants to spend the money.
Well, that's all fair and square I guess but when it comes to rethreading stuff by welding it back up and then retapping it, I have used pretty much any alloy I have on the shelf, I pick the "stronger" one of what I got and usually that does the trick, never worried about the alloy too much.
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Lots of cranks these days vent their frustrations on facebook.tonij wrote:Lots of cranks these days are 7075 alloy...
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