General welding questions that dont fit in TIG, MIG, Stick, or Certification etc.
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I don't know that its a problem with young people in their late teens and early 20's so much. I think people should have a basic concept of tools and how they work/purpose far earlier than that. I learnt by trial and error mostly from a very early age and I also live in an urban area not a farm. Eg, I was using angle grinders when I was 10-12 or so, and the only instruction I had was keep the axis out of the line of sight so if something comes flying off you don't loose and eye. No safety glasses here just bodgy parenting lol. I learnt what happens when you plug it in when its on a bench and haven't checked the switch is off. But all that unsafe mucking around in the garage with different stuff had a huge effect later on. Looking back I took for granted having self confidence to just give something a go, tear it down see how it works and put it back together etc but it goes a long way all through life. I can't help but feel that age bracket from about 8 to 15 is where a lot of that was developed.

Apart from all the social media/iphone/selfies bullshit, one of the biggest changes in the past few decades that is pretty obvious is the amount of cotton wool we keep our kids in. A smack over the knuckles with a ruler is barbaric, yet the school demanding your 8yo boy be medicated with Ritalin or dexamphetamine is ok. We used to have old trains here in the 80's and early 90's and the doors didn't close or could easily be forced open. Trains packed full of school kids would be seen with a bunch of heads hanging out the doors. Imagine if that happened today, people would lose their shit. And don't get me started on fireworks lol. I just can't help but think its not actually their fault, as much as I love putting shit on em. Their attitude towards work and the value of learning skills in general may be lousy but it goes straight back to their parents, can't blame everything on modern technology.


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Farmwelding wrote:Scars are like the best thing ever. Good for starting stories off! And they are good reminders of what not to do. Like me I have a great scar from this summer on my left index finger from a chop saw. Cutting some stainless tubing from an old barn. Turned it off and slammed my hand into it. Now I know not to do that. Or when I slammed a nail through an inch of rubber from the same barn demolition. Or my most recent one when a shot a staple gun into my finger this weekend. This just goes to show that engineers are sometimes stupid and put things in the most stupid way. I put the handle the wrong way and shot it right in.
Scars are one thing, a body full of scars is a pointer to something else ;) Remember, hard work still deserves you use your brain to avoid the hazards. Don't just rely on braun, think it out, then drop a shoulder into it. Sometimes, life won't offer a mulligan ;)
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I used to work some with a local hoe operator that was the poster boy for scars and missing body parts. Few finger sections gone-bumps bruises etc. We called him "dangerous Dan Magoo" ( not his real name). Nice guy but when he was operating everyone kept well out of boom reach. I noticed over the years anyone whatever age who was missing parts or always nursing a boo-boo to be extra cautious when working around him. It only takes seconds to take precautions-safety glasses-heavy gloves -clear work area etc.- much less than needed to run for the medical supplies. You can't prevent everything but best to try to keep the damage to a minimum. :roll: :ugeek:
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One of a kind wrote:Robots are the coming thing....learning how to program,repair and maintain them are the jobs of the future.
Future? I work with them. Dumb little blobs of tech that get confused at the drop of spit.

But they sure beat having to manually perform tasks.

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Keith_J wrote:
One of a kind wrote:Robots are the coming thing....learning how to program,repair and maintain them are the jobs of the future.
Future? I work with them. Dumb little blobs of tech that get confused at the drop of spit.

But they sure beat having to manually perform tasks.

Oh, scars are earned. Hopefully you learn too. Anyone can buy s tattoo.
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I like to joke that if I haven't drawn blood by nine AM, I'm having a bad day. Little nicks and burns are part of the game. It's not actually a daily thing, but anymore I don't even notice the small stuff until someone asks me why I'm bleeding. I should point out that with the medication I'm on a papercut can look serious to the untrained eye...

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Otto Nobedder wrote:I like to joke that if I haven't drawn blood by nine AM, I'm having a bad day. Little nicks and burns are part of the game. It's not actually a daily thing, but anymore I don't even notice the small stuff until someone asks me why I'm bleeding. I should point out that with the medication I'm on a papercut can look serious to the untrained eye...

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That's one of the things I've never understood-how can I cut myself and notice for over an hour? Doesn't make any sense. :lol:
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Farmwelding wrote:
Otto Nobedder wrote:I like to joke that if I haven't drawn blood by nine AM, I'm having a bad day. Little nicks and burns are part of the game. It's not actually a daily thing, but anymore I don't even notice the small stuff until someone asks me why I'm bleeding. I should point out that with the medication I'm on a papercut can look serious to the untrained eye...

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That's one of the things I've never understood-how can I cut myself and notice for over an hour? Doesn't make any sense. :lol:
:lol: I'll come in from work and my wife will ask why I have blood on my face...and i usually have no idea where it came from or what even happened to me.
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Farmwelding wrote:
Otto Nobedder wrote:I like to joke that if I haven't drawn blood by nine AM, I'm having a bad day. Little nicks and burns are part of the game. It's not actually a daily thing, but anymore I don't even notice the small stuff until someone asks me why I'm bleeding. I should point out that with the medication I'm on a papercut can look serious to the untrained eye...

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That's one of the things I've never understood-how can I cut myself and notice for over an hour? Doesn't make any sense. :lol:
Your mind is focused on the task, and you're so accustomed to minor pains, one overrides the other.

That's all I can figure. Until you get in the acetone... THEN the day's adventures become "painfully" clear... :shock:

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Ironically I was reading this post and thinking about why my arm was raw feeling. Then I remembered all those scratches came from 8 am when I wedged my arm in to clean out a hole in a wall.
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Otto Nobedder wrote:
Farmwelding wrote:
Otto Nobedder wrote:I like to joke that if I haven't drawn blood by nine AM, I'm having a bad day. Little nicks and burns are part of the game. It's not actually a daily thing, but anymore I don't even notice the small stuff until someone asks me why I'm bleeding. I should point out that with the medication I'm on a papercut can look serious to the untrained eye...

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That's one of the things I've never understood-how can I cut myself and notice for over an hour? Doesn't make any sense. :lol:
Your mind is focused on the task, and you're so accustomed to minor pains, one overrides the other.

That's all I can figure. Until you get in the acetone... THEN the day's adventures become "painfully" clear... :shock:


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Acetone? Oh yeah..... The stuff I call "Liquid Cut Finder"! :mrgreen:
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exnailpounder wrote: :lol: I'll come in from work and my wife will ask why I have blood on my face...and i usually have no idea where it came from or what even happened to me.
Actually this is one of the signs of alien abduction, Jeff any other odd or unusual physical or mental issues? :lol:
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I am sitting here reading this , and both of my hands got bloody today, broke a tap handle, and busted my knuckles, then the other hand slid across the broken part, and I almost pissed down my leg when I picked up and moved a soaked with Acetone towel....
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You all must use a ton of acetone or something. It's like all of you have a ton of experience with the "cut finder" I have never had this issue. I usually find my cuts by getting some diesel, gas, oil, dirt, gravel, or my favorite grease- the dirt and grease darken everything except the cut-the cut is very vibrant and easily shown.
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I worked with mitered and lots of cut angles of aluminum extrusions for a long time and those things will just unzip you and you'd never even know it. Those weird razor like ones that don't bleed for a little bit, then dripdripdrip...

It wasn't odd at all to hear it called out in the shop- "Who's bleeding?".
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If you cut up hot chillis, like harbineros or similar, wash your hands BEFORE going to the toilet. (Or putting your fingers into someplace important). A funny story until it happens to you.
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LtBadd wrote:
exnailpounder wrote: :lol: I'll come in from work and my wife will ask why I have blood on my face...and i usually have no idea where it came from or what even happened to me.
Actually this is one of the signs of alien abduction, Jeff any other odd or unusual physical or mental issues? :lol:
Mostly mental but I thought it was from drinking :lol:
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weldin mike 27 wrote:If you cut up hot chillis, like harbineros or similar, wash your hands BEFORE going to the toilet. (Or putting your fingers into someplace important). A funny story until it happens to you.
Hahaha!

Happened to me and the wife at the same time. :lol:


Last time she'll ever fall for that one :(
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Farmwelding wrote:You all must use a ton of acetone or something. It's like all of you have a ton of experience with the "cut finder" I have never had this issue. I usually find my cuts by getting some diesel, gas, oil, dirt, gravel, or my favorite grease- the dirt and grease darken everything except the cut-the cut is very vibrant and easily shown.
Brake and carb cleaner finds them too. Nothing is more of a nuisance than a metal sliver you don't know you have until you touch another piece of metal or put on gloves....then you can't get the damned thing out.
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Farmwelding wrote:You all must use a ton of acetone or something. It's like all of you have a ton of experience with the "cut finder" I have never had this issue. I usually find my cuts by getting some diesel, gas, oil, dirt, gravel, or my favorite grease- the dirt and grease darken everything except the cut-the cut is very vibrant and easily shown.
Brake and carb cleaner finds them too. Nothing is more of a nuisance than a metal sliver you don't know you have until you touch another piece of metal or put on gloves....then you can't get the damned thing out.
My old "college days" hemostats have a prominent place in my tool box just for removing such annoyances...

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I know a guy who fell off his pushbike and ripped off his finger in some tram tracks.....even he is still annoyed by those little metal slivers.
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Otto Nobedder wrote:
exnailpounder wrote:
Farmwelding wrote:You all must use a ton of acetone or something. It's like all of you have a ton of experience with the "cut finder" I have never had this issue. I usually find my cuts by getting some diesel, gas, oil, dirt, gravel, or my favorite grease- the dirt and grease darken everything except the cut-the cut is very vibrant and easily shown.
Brake and carb cleaner finds them too. Nothing is more of a nuisance than a metal sliver you don't know you have until you touch another piece of metal or put on gloves....then you can't get the damned thing out.
My old "college days" hemostats have a prominent place in my tool box just for removing such annoyances...

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I still have my roach cl....I mean hemostats too :lol:
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Otto Nobedder wrote:
My old "college days" hemostats have a prominent place in my tool box just for removing such annoyances...

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exnailpounder wrote: I still have my roach cl....I mean hemostats too :lol:

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We all have a past. No two alike, but often with similarities. I'm not ashamed of anything I've done. Stories and scars are similar creatures. Precious to who we've become, and better with each telling.

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