General welding questions that dont fit in TIG, MIG, Stick, or Certification etc.
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So the AWS and all the other organizations go through a process to develop a code or standard or procedure to follow for welding. What kind of time frame does it take to develop a process or code? How many pants have to be lit on fire until we realize that that is the wrong way to stick weld overhead? What kind of work is involved in the development? What kind of work is involved? I appreciate those who do it to better the industry and projects and construction. Just a thought from my brain in English.
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What is wrong with your overhead welds?
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I think he is giving an example of figuring out the wrong way to overhead weld results in your pants catching on fire, the same procedure is repeated with the pants catching on fire phenomena, eventually someone makes a law or code saying, don't do it that way because you will catch your pants on fire.MinnesotaDave wrote:What is wrong with your overhead welds?
I think that's what he was saying, is how many times does that incident have to occur before someone figures out a way to prevent it.
if there's a welder, there's a way
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Does he really need a code to tell him not to put his "important parts" under the direct flow of sparks?
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I been doing this "a few years" and don't catch my pants on fire overhead welding...maybe I've been doing it wrong according to some secret codeOlivero wrote:I think he is giving an example of figuring out the wrong way to overhead weld results in your pants catching on fire, the same procedure is repeated with the pants catching on fire phenomena, eventually someone makes a law or code saying, don't do it that way because you will catch your pants on fire.MinnesotaDave wrote:What is wrong with your overhead welds?
I think that's what he was saying, is how many times does that incident have to occur before someone figures out a way to prevent it.
My pants aren't the closest thing to the weld...
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Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~
Syncro 350
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Thermal Arc 161 and 300
MM210
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Tried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw~
Syncro 350
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Tried being normal once, didn't take....I think it was a Tuesday.
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Ollivero is correct-I figure at some point when figuring out how to do a 4g plate test with 7018s I'm sure some guy decided that there is a better way-he tried and now like Jeff said-burnt his balls. Obviously not correct, but somebody had to try it to figure that it didn't work.
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My friend is a boilermaker and has never done AL....he brings his golf cart over so I can weld up a few frame cracks so I ask him if he wants to try AL...he does exotic welding with alloys that we probably never heard of right? He climbs under a big old crack and starts pouring the coals to that AL and doesn't know it is fine one minute and dropping out in your face the next..lol..so this big meteorite comes down on his bare bicep and Liedenfrosts off that piggy pink skin but leaves a 4" second degree burn on his arm. He slides out, hands me the torch and says"you do it..aluminum sucks"MinnesotaDave wrote:I been doing this "a few years" and don't catch my pants on fire overhead welding...maybe I've been doing it wrong according to some secret codeOlivero wrote:I think he is giving an example of figuring out the wrong way to overhead weld results in your pants catching on fire, the same procedure is repeated with the pants catching on fire phenomena, eventually someone makes a law or code saying, don't do it that way because you will catch your pants on fire.MinnesotaDave wrote:What is wrong with your overhead welds?
I think that's what he was saying, is how many times does that incident have to occur before someone figures out a way to prevent it.
My pants aren't the closest thing to the weld...
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You should have had him run a 7024 overhead.
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They work with chainsaws to?
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What are you doing with your chainsaw that you are afraid of ballsack damage? I have heard of people starting chainsaws while they hold them with their legs,,you put the motor between your legs..not the bar! I value my balls and don't need a leather Speedo to protect them....Gosh these threads really go off topic don't they??Farmwelding wrote:They work with chainsaws to?
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I was referring to chaps for cutting trees in case you slip the saw into your leg. It binds and stops the saw so you don't cut your leg.
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I like to wear my assless chaps when I feel "frisky" and have my wife chase me around the house with jar of lube and some Ben Wa balls...they sell chaps for wood cutters?Farmwelding wrote:I was referring to chaps for cutting trees in case you slip the saw into your leg. It binds and stops the saw so you don't cut your leg.
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Aaaaaand off the rails it wentexnailpounder wrote:I like to wear my assless chaps when I feel "frisky" and have my wife chase me around the house with jar of lube and some Ben Wa balls...they sell chaps for wood cutters?Farmwelding wrote:I was referring to chaps for cutting trees in case you slip the saw into your leg. It binds and stops the saw so you don't cut your leg.
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NoOlivero wrote:Aaaaaand off the rails it wentexnailpounder wrote:I like to wear my assless chaps when I feel "frisky" and have my wife chase me around the house with jar of lube and some Ben Wa balls...they sell chaps for wood cutters?Farmwelding wrote:I was referring to chaps for cutting trees in case you slip the saw into your leg. It binds and stops the saw so you don't cut your leg.
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...umm, aren't all chaps assless? Otherwise they would be pants....exnailpounder wrote:I like to wear my assless chaps when I feel "frisky" and have my wife chase me around the house with jar of lube and some Ben Wa balls...they sell chaps for wood cutters?Farmwelding wrote:I was referring to chaps for cutting trees in case you slip the saw into your leg. It binds and stops the saw so you don't cut your leg.
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Thank goodness for Dave... The voice of reason and of logic and making awful things betterMinnesotaDave wrote:...umm, aren't all chaps assless? Otherwise they would be pants....exnailpounder wrote:I like to wear my assless chaps when I feel "frisky" and have my wife chase me around the house with jar of lube and some Ben Wa balls...they sell chaps for wood cutters?Farmwelding wrote:I was referring to chaps for cutting trees in case you slip the saw into your leg. It binds and stops the saw so you don't cut your leg.
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Farmwelding wrote:So the AWS and all the other organizations go through a process to develop a code or standard or procedure to follow for welding. What kind of time frame does it take to develop a process or code? How many pants have to be lit on fire until we realize that that is the wrong way to stick weld overhead? What kind of work is involved in the development? What kind of work is involved? I appreciate those who do it to better the industry and projects and construction. Just a thought from my brain in English.
In an attempt to right this wreck, I'll tell you that we're about to qualify procedures at work, to support WPSs. Okay, "I'm" about to qualify procedures, as I seem to be the only one in the shop that can pass ASME IX. This is not too different from developing the codes. We have an engineering firm involved, as well as a testing facility, and all our materials must be traceable. I will have to weld two coupons for each proposed procedure, one in groove configuration, one fillet. These will be sent to be bent, and on a pass we will have PQRs (Process Qualification Records) to cite on our WPSs.
I'll share more of the process as it develops.
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A (any) code will not help you in anyway until you can learn to weld properly. Thats why they don't teach beginners ASME IV
PS, Jeff. I actually made that ballsack meme on a Friday night a few years ago for my facebook page.
PS, Jeff. I actually made that ballsack meme on a Friday night a few years ago for my facebook page.
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I found it somewhere and had it in a file...I like that one. You're famous Mick!weldin mike 27 wrote:A (any) code will not help you in anyway until you can learn to weld properly. Thats why they don't teach beginners ASME IV
PS, Jeff. I actually made that ballsack meme on a Friday night a few years ago for my facebook page.
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It's a gift. lol. I've got quite a few floating around the web. Other facebook groups steal them like all get out.
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