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exnailpounder wrote:I only do 12 ounce curls these day 8-)
I figured you to be a 16oz guy Jeff.
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Coldman wrote:That's what apprentices are for

Amen to that. The FNGs get a workout at our shop. The young ones, anyway. We have one FNG who's older than me.

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exnailpounder wrote:I only do 12 ounce curls these day 8-)
I figured you to be a 16oz guy Jeff.
Nah, he likes the good stuff, craft beers and such. Not much of that comes in glass pints, and I doubt he drinks much from aluminum.

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So... Kind of like the Idaho law that prohibits trout fishing from the back of a giraffe I beleive.

We have an similar person to OSHA at school now. We know have safety knives. Utility knive ballades in plastic with a shield. Loon it up its a hoot. Or lathe guards on wood lathes and metal lathes that wouldn't do anything.
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LtBadd wrote:
exnailpounder wrote:I only do 12 ounce curls these day 8-)
I figured you to be a 16oz guy Jeff.
Wow. To think he was only able to lift 6 oz a year ago
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LtBadd wrote:
exnailpounder wrote:I only do 12 ounce curls these day 8-)
I figured you to be a 16oz guy Jeff.
Nah, he likes the good stuff, craft beers and such. Not much of that comes in glass pints, and I doubt he drinks much from aluminum.

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Well my employer here in Michigan required that mechanics in maintenance (my job) lift 80# three times from ground level to overhead and on a shelf, and repeat, or your not hired. Now at 53 I had lumbar disc removal and fused pins and screws to strengthen. My 11 months of physical therapy and work hardening was a tough go. My therapist refused to put me through the companies requirement. Stated in writing nobody should be putting that much weight above the shoulders and it is a risk it will fall on the head. I had to lawyer up and still had to prove I can lift 80# at least once. That about killed me. Took months fighting for my job. Company could care less the danger. At 60 I am now disabled. So work smart and listen to your body. Forty years of back abuse leaves you in bad shape.
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I am only 20 and used to grin at the older guys I work around, since I do welding, fabrication, refrigeration, plumbing, electrical and all the other stuff I tend to work around and in a lot of different envoirements, a lot of it includes lifting but I see these guys not being able to lift or having back problems, I know I can lift a decent weight, took a 135 lbs. 40" X 40" box today and carried it around. Carry my argon bottle on my shoulder up 6 stories

But for what? There is so much equipment and so many ways to do things that doesn't require you wrecking your body, I listen to the guys telling me to be careful and only do heavy lifting when its really necessary. Learned how to drive forklifts and boom lifts and such things so I don't HAVE to do it the hard way.

Obviously if it comes down to it and there is no other way, I'll do it the hard way and I can do it the hard way but if I can avoid it, I will, you should do the same. No fun in not being able to lift anything though.
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Olivero wrote:I am only 20 and used to grin at the older guys I work around, since I do welding, fabrication, refrigeration, plumbing, electrical and all the other stuff I tend to work around and in a lot of different envoirements, a lot of it includes lifting but I see these guys not being able to lift or having back problems, I know I can lift a decent weight, took a 135 lbs. 40" X 40" box today and carried it around. Carry my argon bottle on my shoulder up 6 stories

But for what? There is so much equipment and so many ways to do things that doesn't require you wrecking your body, I listen to the guys telling me to be careful and only do heavy lifting when its really necessary. Learned how to drive forklifts and boom lifts and such things so I don't HAVE to do it the hard way.

Obviously if it comes down to it and there is no other way, I'll do it the hard way and I can do it the hard way but if I can avoid it, I will, you should do the same. No fun in not being able to lift anything though.
Or you have the guy you work for who cuts trees for the city tell you to do a desk job to save your body and then pays me $8 an hour to lift 150-200 lbs logs and stack wood for 6-8 hrs a day. Some people-I tell ya
I don't mind though. Makes cracking my back feel a lot better at the end of the day.
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exnailpounder wrote: These days I drink vodka and Sunny D.
My cousin Greg is a senior vice-president for marketing at Sunny D.

I don't mix vodka with synthetics, though.

I mix vodka with Kahlua. It's the racist in me, that I like to slam Black Russians... :roll:

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Well I know we have assists available like at my school we have:
Gantry crane, a forklift, handcart. I understand that everyone should be physically able to do most on the job tasks. I understand how there are guidelines that I need to know. Just until mom said how we don't know how much you will need to carry. I grateful for you guys being honest. I understand that young guys such myself needs to do some on the job weight lifting.
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Rhyno21 wrote:Well I know we have assists available like at my school we have:
Gantry crane, a forklift, handcart. I understand that everyone should be physically able to do most on the job tasks. I understand how there are guidelines that I need to know. Just until mom said how we don't know how much you will need to carry. I grateful for you guys being honest. I understand that young guys such myself needs to do some on the job weight lifting.
What's very important is you do actual weight lifting and stay in good physical condition.

You will hurt yourself if you don't make sure you are strong and fit.

Also, when it truly is too heavy, don't try to lift it anyway, you'll pay for it the rest of your life.

Be strong, but be smart. :D
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Rhyno21 wrote:Well I know we have assists available like at my school we have:
Gantry crane, a forklift, handcart. I understand that everyone should be physically able to do most on the job tasks. I understand how there are guidelines that I need to know. Just until mom said how we don't know how much you will need to carry. I grateful for you guys being honest. I understand that young guys such myself needs to do some on the job weight lifting.
What's very important is you do actual weight lifting and stay in good physical condition.

You will hurt yourself if you don't make sure you are strong and fit.

Also, when it truly is too heavy, don't try to lift it anyway, you'll pay for it the rest of your life.

Be strong, but be smart. :D
Aside from the obvious- strength, I also just generally feel a lot better from lifting. Better appetite, sleep, energy levels, etc. It has a lot of over all benefits.
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Nothing wrong with lifting stuff, just don't overdo it. They might now you as the one guy that lifts everything at work but 20 years from now, they'll know you as the dumbass who lifted everything at work and can't walk straight anymore.

See it all the time.
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Yeah, I hear you. There's a lot of bull strong guys that can heave-ho strong as an ox when they're young, then one day they sneeze and out goes a couple of disks.

Aside from wrestling since 4th grade,I've trained power lifting and olympic lifting intermittently for almost 20 years (now 44). In that time I've worked with some great strength and conditioning coaches and study it a bit myself. There's a lot that goes into knowing how to move and to keep moving. My main points of emphasis have been mobility and joint stability- then strength and conditioning. I've recently started back after a long break to give my kid time to grow up a little so that he isn't a hazard in the weight room.

Nothing like a toddler hugging your leg in the middle of a 350lb. squat! :o
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Nothing like a toddler hugging your leg in the middle of a 350lb. squat! :o
Dude..... :lol:

Lets see just how long you can hold that bar with one leg as you move him away with one foot :lol:
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exnailpounder wrote: These days I drink vodka and Sunny D. I used to brew my own beer and really was into it and I learned how distill and make world class whisky and vodka but the only satisfaction I have ever gotten from alcohol is drinking it...and then getting up in the morning and doing my thing all day and then doing it all again day after day. In other words...controlling something that has contolled and ruined so many lives. I use alcohol...I don't let it use me. ;)
Sounds like a good story... ;) I used to make beer too. Mainly drank vodka in the summer and switched back to whiskey for the winter. Then stuck with whiskey all year. Now its wine. There's a new sheriff in town! I am controlling the alcohol too. :lol:
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Nothing like a toddler hugging your leg in the middle of a 350lb. squat! :o
Dude..... :lol:

Lets see just how long you can hold that bar with one leg as you move him away with one foot :lol:
That wasn't even the bad part. We use a rack for squats.

When he grabbed and tried to hang off of the collar while I was dead lifting was the bad part.

Me- "Eric, grab him, would ya?"

Lifting Partner "Oh Sh*T!"

The little bugger is good now though. He has two 5 lb. dumbells that he runs around with doing farmers walks with.
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"Postby Olivero » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:12 am
Nothing wrong with lifting stuff, just don't overdo it. They might now you as the one guy that lifts everything at work but 20 years from now, they'll know you as the dumbass who lifted everything at work and can't walk straight anymore."
Yes I agree currently with school and my apprenticeship taking a lot of my time I have not been able to workout. I won't be the guy getting dragged of the weights as I did track and field 100 yard dash and shot out and discus throwing. I know my stuff with weights at the gym.
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PeteM wrote:
Nothing like a toddler hugging your leg in the middle of a 350lb. squat! :o
Dude..... :lol:

Lets see just how long you can hold that bar with one leg as you move him away with one foot :lol:
That wasn't even the bad part. We use a rack for squats.

When he grabbed and tried to hang off of the collar while I was dead lifting was the bad part.

Me- "Eric, grab him, would ya?"

Lifting Partner "Oh Sh*T!"

The little bugger is good now though. He has two 5 lb. dumbells that he runs around with doing farmers walks with.
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Haha, that's awesome. :D
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Rhyno21 wrote:"Postby Olivero » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:12 am
Nothing wrong with lifting stuff, just don't overdo it. They might now you as the one guy that lifts everything at work but 20 years from now, they'll know you as the dumbass who lifted everything at work and can't walk straight anymore."
Yes I agree currently with school and my apprenticeship taking a lot of my time I have not been able to workout. I won't be the guy getting dragged of the weights as I did track and field 100 yard dash and shot out and discus throwing. I know my stuff with weights at the gym.
Welding and metal working in general will give you strength, I am not saying you have to go to the Gym, just don't lift shit if you don't have to.
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I guess Miller didn't pay attention to the OSHA regulations when they made their Suitcase "portable wire feeder". It's got to weigh 40 lbs alone, then add a 33 lb spool of wire and a 15 lb torch and carry that up a ladder into a crawl space dragging the welding leads behind you.

Maybe when I was 35, but I'm approaching 50 and it's getting harder.
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Well I understand Olivero. Just doing a double sided V groove 8 grooves in total. 1/4 or 3/8 plate between and it takes all my strength to hold it at waist or chest height.
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Well, there you go.
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