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Re: Let's talk helmets, hoods, hats ...whatever you call the

Postby homeboy » Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:40 pm

I just have a basic cheap Princess Auto "special" which works ok and it does have the grind mode. Welder and plasma cutter are on the same cart so I use grind mode for the plasma but never for grinding. First I have heard of non tinted lenses which sounds interesting and worth looking into. Contrary to rumour eyesight does not improve with age so at 67 a little boost would be nice. :roll: :ugeek:
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Postby Farmwelding » Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:50 pm

The titanium series from Miller is cool. Flip up the auto dark and have a grind shield. I'm gonna get the 1600i soon. Passive shade with the grind shield. As for construction sites and helmets with grind modes. I thought they were up to snuff with osha and all the other alphabet organizations?
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Re: Let's talk helmets, hoods, hats ...whatever you call the

Postby cj737 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:24 am

One thing that has been unmentioned is to install a cheater lens in your hood, whichever you buy. You can source them in varying degrees of strength, 0.25 all the way up to 3.50. Its like a reading glass lens that covers the lower half of your welding lens, from the inside. I use a 2.00 and it makes a huge difference.

I am also a huge fan of a Miller Digital Infinity helmet. I have the Digital, Digital Elite, and now the Infinity. It's a noticeable difference in the viewing area, the auto-sensing is spot on whether inside or outside. Its lightweight, and the head straps are extremely comfortable. Its a little pricey at $250, but for me its money well spent on comfort, safety and effectiveness.
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Re: Let's talk helmets, hoods, hats ...whatever you call the

Postby Farmwelding » Sun Apr 23, 2017 7:26 am

cj737 wrote:One thing that has been unmentioned is to install a cheater lens in your hood, whichever you buy. You can source them in varying degrees of strength, 0.25 all the way up to 3.50. Its like a reading glass lens that covers the lower half of your welding lens, from the inside. I use a 2.00 and it makes a huge difference.

I am also a huge fan of a Miller Digital Infinity helmet. I have the Digital, Digital Elite, and now the Infinity. It's a noticeable difference in the viewing area, the auto-sensing is spot on whether inside or outside. Its lightweight, and the head straps are extremely comfortable. Its a little pricey at $250, but for me its money well spent on comfort, safety and effectiveness.

One thing to add. If you are going with a cheater lens, go either the digital elite. It is the same and the infinity but smaller. You don't need extra viewing window if you are only using a cheater lens. The lens limits where the helmet can sit compared to your head so you are stuck looking out of a 2x4 space instead of the whole helmet
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Re: Let's talk helmets, hoods, hats ...whatever you call the

Postby cj737 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:14 am

Farmwelding wrote:One thing to add. If you are going with a cheater lens, go either the digital elite. It is the same and the infinity but smaller. You don't need extra viewing window if you are only using a cheater lens. The lens limits where the helmet can sit compared to your head so you are stuck looking out of a 2x4 space instead of the whole helmet

This is not accurate. Trust me, I use a cheater and have used the cheater in both helmets. The cheater is for focus during welding, on the puddle. The larger viewing area is not within the focal plane of your eyes, and instead the peripheral vision is in play when looking beyond/outside the cheater. And the cheater lens is not always in use when welding. You can find yourself in a position where the distance is too great to use the cheater, so the larger viewing area is a major benefit for older eyes.

Case in point: Friday I was TIG welding a bush hog idler wheel bracket back together. Why TIG? Because the bracket needed to be welded inside and the gap was only 2.5" wide by about 4" deep and the plates were 5/8" thick. Beveled, and welded back to the existing brackets. I had to weld standing over the joint, looking straight down, TIG torch vertical up, rod from above. No possible way to "see" what I was doing otherwise because of obstructions. I was much farther away than the cheater would focus, so I used the extra area the Infinity provided to give me ample peripheral vision.

One day, Farmer, when you're old like me, you'll see what I'm talking about :D ;)
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Re: Let's talk helmets, hoods, hats ...whatever you call the

Postby Farmwelding » Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:57 am

Well there you have to I guess. I've always heard that the a large viewing area doesn't do you any good for cheater lenses. I know the most recent thing was Jody on his podcast when he said that no viewing area would help him with a cheater lens. I guess it depends on what kind of work to. Thank you for that bit of info. Happy to be proven wrong
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Postby exnailpounder » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:01 am

Farmwelding wrote:Well there you have to I guess. I've always heard that the a large viewing area doesn't do you any good for cheater lenses. I know the most recent thing was Jody on his podcast when he said that no viewing area would help him with a cheater lens. I guess it depends on what kind of work to. Thank you for that bit of info. Happy to be proven wrong

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Re: Let's talk helmets, hoods, hats ...whatever you call the

Postby Poland308 » Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:48 am

Farmwelding wrote:The titanium series from Miller is cool. Flip up the auto dark and have a grind shield. I'm gonna get the 1600i soon. Passive shade with the grind shield. As for construction sites and helmets with grind modes. I thought they were up to snuff with osha and all the other alphabet organizations?


For big companies like P&G, DuPont, or ADM. it's not osha you have to listen to. The onsite company safety people are way more strict.
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Postby Farmwelding » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:05 am

Poland308 wrote:
Farmwelding wrote:The titanium series from Miller is cool. Flip up the auto dark and have a grind shield. I'm gonna get the 1600i soon. Passive shade with the grind shield. As for construction sites and helmets with grind modes. I thought they were up to snuff with osha and all the other alphabet organizations?


For big companies like P&G, DuPont, or ADM. it's not osha you have to listen to. The onsite company safety people are way more strict.

Stricter than OSHA?!?!?! That has to suck. I thought Osha was bad
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Postby Otto Nobedder » Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:41 pm

Yup. I worked on an ADM site. First day was the OSHA 10-hour. Second day was site-specific safety training. Much tighter safety rules. They just use OSHA as a guideline.

On the other side of the coin, I worked a small job on an MSHA site (also stricter than OSHA), where they pencil-whipped an MSHA 48(?) for me and put me to work.

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