Re: Let's talk helmets, hoods, hats ...whatever you call the
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:00 pm
Ok, I'll bite. What's a cheater lens?
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It's a magnifying lens (two, side-by-side, actually) in a standard 2X4 size like a small-window welding lens. They come in different "diopter" numbers like reading glasses. They mount inside the hood, over your filter lens.WildWestWelder wrote:Ok, I'll bite. What's a cheater lens?
My trick is to wear reading glasses that allow me to see good enough when in the shop. Then I also have a cheater lens in the hood that together with the reading glasses makes it so I can see the weld puddle perfect, but still be able to see pretty good without having to put glasses back on when I lift the hood.Otto Nobedder wrote:It's a magnifying lens (two, side-by-side, actually) in a standard 2X4 size like a small-window welding lens. They come in different "diopter" numbers like reading glasses. They mount inside the hood, over your filter lens.WildWestWelder wrote:Ok, I'll bite. What's a cheater lens?
Steve S
Huh? Do you weld with glasses and a cheater at the same time? I do. I have to have my face stuck in the weld like that but I can see it amazingly well. If I can't get my face in close, I have to take the glasses off. When I mig, I only use the cheater. I wish I could find a good glass cheater instead of the chinese plastic POS's.electrode wrote:My trick is to wear reading glasses that allow me to see good enough when in the shop. Then I also have a cheater lens in the hood that together with the reading glasses makes it so I can see the weld puddle perfect, but still be able to see pretty good without having to put glasses back on when I lift the hood.Otto Nobedder wrote:It's a magnifying lens (two, side-by-side, actually) in a standard 2X4 size like a small-window welding lens. They come in different "diopter" numbers like reading glasses. They mount inside the hood, over your filter lens.WildWestWelder wrote:Ok, I'll bite. What's a cheater lens?
Steve S
I wear progressive lens glasses and use a cheater. This allows me the greatest flexibility when I can't get in as close as I'd like, or when I need to stand back (think 6010 rod) and still see. I'll stick with the inexpensive plastic cheaters as they are susceptible to damage and wear and are inexpensive enough to replace. My glass lenses are not. I've had them do their job of protecting my eyes from flying objects and get chipped badly enough to require replacement. Cheaper than a visit to the Ophthalmologist surgeon, but the Optician took her pound of flesh.exnailpounder wrote: Huh? Do you weld with glasses and a cheater at the same time? I do. I have to have my face stuck in the weld like that but I can see it amazingly well. If I can't get my face in close, I have to take the glasses off. When I mig, I only use the cheater. I wish I could find a good glass cheater instead of the chinese plastic POS's.
I absolutely despise "progressive lenses" for welding. I'm happy you like them, but I cannot deal with changing focus as my view angle changes and cannot, will not recommend them for anyone who doesn't weld on a bench.cj737 wrote:I wear progressive lens glasses and use a cheater. This allows me the greatest flexibility when I can't get in as close as I'd like, or when I need to stand back (think 6010 rod) and still see. I'll stick with the inexpensive plastic cheaters as they are susceptible to damage and wear and are inexpensive enough to replace. My glass lenses are not. I've had them do their job of protecting my eyes from flying objects and get chipped badly enough to require replacement. Cheaper than a visit to the Ophthalmologist surgeon, but the Optician took her pound of flesh.exnailpounder wrote: Huh? Do you weld with glasses and a cheater at the same time? I do. I have to have my face stuck in the weld like that but I can see it amazingly well. If I can't get my face in close, I have to take the glasses off. When I mig, I only use the cheater. I wish I could find a good glass cheater instead of the chinese plastic POS's.
It's not by choice, it's by necessity that I wear them. I highly recommend eating more carrots when younger to avoid wearing them later in life..Otto Nobedder wrote:I absolutely despise "progressive lenses" for welding. I'm happy you like them, but I cannot deal with changing focus as my view angle changes and cannot, will not recommend them for anyone who doesn't weld on a bench.cj737 wrote:I wear progressive lens glasses and use a cheater. This allows me the greatest flexibility when I can't get in as close as I'd like, or when I need to stand back (think 6010 rod) and still see. I'll stick with the inexpensive plastic cheaters as they are susceptible to damage and wear and are inexpensive enough to replace. My glass lenses are not. I've had them do their job of protecting my eyes from flying objects and get chipped badly enough to require replacement. Cheaper than a visit to the Ophthalmologist surgeon, but the Optician took her pound of flesh.exnailpounder wrote: Huh? Do you weld with glasses and a cheater at the same time? I do. I have to have my face stuck in the weld like that but I can see it amazingly well. If I can't get my face in close, I have to take the glasses off. When I mig, I only use the cheater. I wish I could find a good glass cheater instead of the chinese plastic POS's.
Steve S
So even like a purloined hood either the flip up or a Miller titanium with a 180 degree grind shield doesn't count?Poland308 wrote:For big companies like P&G, DuPont, or ADM. it's not osha you have to listen to. The onsite company safety people are way more strict.Farmwelding wrote:The titanium series from Miller is cool. Flip up the auto dark and have a grind shield. I'm gonna get the 1600i soon. Passive shade with the grind shield. As for construction sites and helmets with grind modes. I thought they were up to snuff with osha and all the other alphabet organizations?
Did you even read my comment before you replied? I understand necessity. Also, the carrot thing is pure bullshit, or I would still be 20/10.cj737 wrote: It's not by choice, it's by necessity that I wear them. I highly recommend eating more carrots when younger to avoid wearing them later in life..
I got progressive lenses about 10 years ago. Picked them up at the optometrists office, put them on, walked out the door and fell down the stairs. Hated 'em and never could get used to wearing them.They screwed with my depth perception really bad. Went back to drug store cheaters and threw the prescription glasses in the bin.Otto Nobedder wrote:Did you even read my comment before you replied? I understand necessity. Also, the carrot thing is pure bullshit, or I would still be 20/10.cj737 wrote: It's not by choice, it's by necessity that I wear them. I highly recommend eating more carrots when younger to avoid wearing them later in life..
I tried Progressive lenses. Wore them for a year. HATED them. I mean F@#KING HATED them.
I wear only standard bifocals now. I will get trifocals before I'll weld in "progressives" again.
Steve S
Hey Kym! Long time, no see. Up here they also call progressive lenses "no line bifocals" or trifocals. They're horrible. I was convinced by the eye doctor that I needed glasses when all I really needed glasses for is reading, my eyesight is fine otherwise. $2000 later(my insurance paid for it) I couldn't wear them and I tossed 'em. I wear my 2.50 readers and use a 1.75 in my hood and I can see the individual atoms in my weld puddle Nice to see you around again. Don't be such a strangerMosquitoMoto wrote:I wonder if 'progressive lenses' are what we in the Southern Colonies refer to as 'multi-focals?'
My eyes were damaged as a result of drugs used following surgery on my brain and I've needed glasses ever since I escaped from hospital some years ago. I don't have a problem with normal 'single vision' lenses but the multi-focals are just awful. I hate them. I can't even read with them let alone weld while wearing them.
K
Regrettably doesn't resolve issues for folks who need distance and near sight assurance. LASIK gives you one or the other; not both.Popeye the old miner wrote:Get Lazik surgery done...best 3000 bucks I ever spent...9 years later and I'm still 20/15
I guess I missed this and many other posts as I have been behind on everything here lately due to contractors...cj737 wrote:I wear progressive lens glasses and use a cheater. This allows me the greatest flexibility when I can't get in as close as I'd like, or when I need to stand back (think 6010 rod) and still see. I'll stick with the inexpensive plastic cheaters as they are susceptible to damage and wear and are inexpensive enough to replace. My glass lenses are not. I've had them do their job of protecting my eyes from flying objects and get chipped badly enough to require replacement. Cheaper than a visit to the Ophthalmologist surgeon, but the Optician took her pound of flesh.exnailpounder wrote: Huh? Do you weld with glasses and a cheater at the same time? I do. I have to have my face stuck in the weld like that but I can see it amazingly well. If I can't get my face in close, I have to take the glasses off. When I mig, I only use the cheater. I wish I could find a good glass cheater instead of the chinese plastic POS's.
I thought these mag lens were standard, certainly the Miller hoods accept them?electrode wrote: I too wish I could find glass cheaters. I have a Miller Digital Elite and thought I found some glass cheaters but they don't fit.