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Help a dumb Noob! Did I burn my eyes?

Postby SeenRed » Sat May 06, 2017 11:35 am

Help! I'm a noob, and totally new to auto darkening hoods...and I'm a little afraid I've just burned my eyes.

Was in the garage working on a little project this morning. Like a complete dumb@$$, I was using grind mode on my hood, then forgot to switch back to weld mode before sparking and arc. Total exposure to my eyes was probably less than 2 seconds. Am I gonna be in pain in a little while?

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Re: Help a dumb Noob! Did I burn my eyes?

Postby AndersK » Sat May 06, 2017 11:49 am

You will most likely be ok.
Some people are more sensitive than others but the lens filters most of the UV even in grind mode.
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Re: Help a dumb Noob! Did I burn my eyes?

Postby homeboy » Sat May 06, 2017 11:53 am

I have had lots of flashes and never hurt a thing. Some people are more sensitive and get a reaction for a bit. A fellow I went to shop class with many years ago was down for a bit with I think tea bags on his eyes and recovered fine. He's been driving truck for close to 50 yrs with no problems. Don't rush out and buy a white cane just yet!! :lol: :geek:
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Re: Help a dumb Noob! Did I burn my eyes?

Postby SeenRed » Sat May 06, 2017 11:55 am

That is a relief to hear...I've never experienced arc eye, and am not looking forward to it if I've burned them.

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Re: Help a dumb Noob! Did I burn my eyes?

Postby SeenRed » Sat May 06, 2017 12:02 pm

One more question...

Is this a "the damage is already done" type situation, or, if someone thinks they may have flash-burned their eyes, is there something they should do to ease the damage/pain?

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Re: Help a dumb Noob! Did I burn my eyes?

Postby PeteM » Sat May 06, 2017 12:41 pm

Its like sun burn, where the damage is done then the pain sets in later. Similar to sun burn, the damage is based on intensity and duration. A couple seconds through the hood at relatively low settings shouldn't have done much.

The old school treatment is to cut a potato in half and put the flat side on your closed eyes.(most people also like a cold beer or other mixed beverage to help pass the time and whatnot)

A lot MDs will prescribe some type of prescription pain killer.

Ok, now don't everybody go running to the garage all at once... :lol: (that actually happened at a place I worked. Like an epidemic of flash burn)
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Re: Help a dumb Noob! Did I burn my eyes?

Postby Farmwelding » Sat May 06, 2017 1:30 pm

I've done that too many times to count and usually I ended up doing it at 180 amps on tig or stick and it is bright as hell. I usually just sit and flicker my eyelids for a few seconds and then I'm back to normal. At least it wasn't clear and was shade 3
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Re: Help a dumb Noob! Did I burn my eyes?

Postby Olivero » Sat May 06, 2017 5:25 pm

I am pretty sure you are just fine, I have done that many times and I still see just fine, at least I think i do :lol:

From what I understand, the UV is blocked regardless of the shade its just a matter of how bright it is at that point, not necessarily frying your cornea out but you may experience the same problem as staring into a light bulb really close.
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Re: Help a dumb Noob! Did I burn my eyes?

Postby clavius » Sat May 06, 2017 9:55 pm

Well, by now you obviously know that you did not do any damage. As noted above the part of the light from the arc that causes the most immediate damage (and the "sand in your eyes" burn) is the ultraviolet light. This is nearly completely blocked by the glass of your welding lens, whether it turns dark or not. It is a property of the glass. This is why you can't get a suntan through a window.

There is IR and just the brightness of the arc that can cause damage as well, but not in a few seconds. I'd bet the pretty much everyone on this forum has seen a few seconds of arc with nothing protecting their eyes for a few seconds at some time or other. Don't lose any sleep over it...
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Re: Help a dumb Noob! Did I burn my eyes?

Postby SeenRed » Sat May 06, 2017 10:18 pm

Thanks for all the experienced perspective guys! Yeah, I'm no worse for wear...no more than a little mild irritation this afternoon. It only alarmed me because I just didnt know enough about how an auto dark hood works. I appreciate y'all reassuring me!

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