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New Vise Grips (thumbs down)

Postby tungstendipper » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:04 pm

Got a 25 dollar Amazon gift certificate for X-mas, so I bought 2ea. 6" C clamp Vise Grips. These small ones come in handy as a pocket on a shirt. Received them and I was surprised at the sloppy construction. Apparently, Irvin had bought Vise Grip. All of my other Vise Grips are the originals and where U.S. made. These are NOT the same quality. I have always steered clear of of the forgeries because their poor quality. After buying these I will look in to Harbor Freight's I'll bet there's not much difference.

Sorry should have put this in the review section.
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Re: New Vise Grips (thumbs down)

Postby Poland308 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:22 pm

There has been a drop in quality here in the US as well. They bend real easy and the teeth round off after just a few uses.
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Re: New Vise Grips (thumbs down)

Postby Farmwelding » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:28 pm

They are hit and miss. The big c clamp ones without pads are great for holding stuff for grinding but they bend too easily the 7 and 10 in normal classic vise grips still work phenomenal for me. Use them on every project and for every repair job in the farm. They are used as door handles and other replacement parts that are permanent.
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Re: New Vise Grips (thumbs down)

Postby rahtreelimbs » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:28 pm

All my vice grips are Irwin brand. Good quality.......not a problem.
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Re: New Vise Grips (thumbs down)

Postby mechanic416 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:33 am

I have all kinds of vice grips. The originals I try and keep clean and away from were I am welding. Irwin bought out Vice-Grip and they are not as good but work OK. I have found almost all the cheaper vice grips/clamping pliers the upper jaw is only pined/riveted and will move when you put pressure on them, so out comes the tig and 309 rod.
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Re: New Vise Grips (thumbs down)

Postby aland » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:17 pm

mechanic416 wrote:I have all kinds of vice grips. The originals I try and keep clean and away from were I am welding. Irwin bought out Vice-Grip and they are not as good but work OK. I have found almost all the cheaper vice grips/clamping pliers the upper jaw is only pined/riveted and will move when you put pressure on them, so out comes the tig and 309 rod.


Just curious,

If you do that, isn't there plating on them which is toxic when welded? Do you clean them before welding?

I've always been cautious of plating as there have been many cases where blacksmiths have gotten sick and even died from plated metal. Those fumes are toxic...

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Re: New Vise Grips (thumbs down)

Postby Poland308 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:57 pm

Chrome or zinc coatings can be dealt with in many ways. Proper ventilation is always a key. Some people are more susceptible to the affects than others, but the heavy metals can build up over time with accumulated levels.
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Re: New Vise Grips (thumbs down)

Postby aland » Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:54 am

Poland308 wrote:Chrome or zinc coatings can be dealt with in many ways. Proper ventilation is always a key. Some people are more susceptible to the affects than others, but the heavy metals can build up over time with accumulated levels.


Indeed it's workable with precautions. I typically will soak stuff in citric acid or even just vinegar or lemon juice will work as well. Downside is that it strips the plating off and leaves the metal bare. This does work for any zinc plated or galvanized plated nuts and bolts I've worked with in the forge.

Just in case someone is reading this that may not be aware, it's good to know you shouldn't run out to your shop and start welding on plated metal without taking some precaution.

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