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Not the best picture, but I think the silhouette most closely resembles the USS North Carolina (North Carolina class), in her trim after repair from damage after Pearl Harbor.

Compare the third picture on this page:
http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/shi ... olina.html

She was commissioned April 9, 1941, so would have been welded construction.

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Wow, this was a topic from the past. 2014 seems like so long ago at times yet like yesterday others.
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Thanks Steve,
I'm not sure I'm convinced. The North Carolina Class has a more modern bow, 3 x three gun turrets and two aircraft.
The Colorado Class has the distinctive clipper bow, 4 x twin gun turrets and three aircraft.
The ship in the photo has the clipper bow, three aircraft launchers and the turrets definitely are not three gun and I think I can see four turrets. I wish there was more clarity in the photo, sorry about that.
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That's the challenge in the photo. If you search the site I posted, you won't find a Colorado class in WWII trim with fewer than three guns in a turret. My take is this is a transitional phase in the ship's trim. The NC was damaged at Pearl Harbor, and refitted in a hurry. The image you presented resembles this "just after repair" trim (to me) more than it does a Colorado class from an earlier era of dreadnaughts.

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Maybe a New York class, BB35 comes to mind.
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Not the New York, It had 5 twin turrets, also did not have cage masts during WWII.
North Carolina was not present at Pearl Harbor during the attack.

There were two classes of battleships that were nearly Identical.

The California and Tennessee had 4 triple turrets with 14 inch guns
Colorado, West Va and Maryland had 4 twin turrets with 16 inch guns.

I believe the ship going under the golden gate is the Colorado.
It was the only one of those 5 that was not at Pearl Harbor. It never received the massive rebuilds during the war.
It retained the cage foremast through the war. All the others had the Cage masts removed.

http://www.navsource.org has more ship pictures than you can believe.
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Thanks Erich, would you know if it was of riveted or welder construction? Or where i can look to find out?
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Here's another pic of the Colorado showing battle damage in the Marianas. Looks very much like the original pic I posted.
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I believe they are riveted.

Here is a large image of the California BB 44 just before launching
http://navsource.org/archives/01/044/014419l.jpg

Here is the keel laying.
http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/014496.jpg
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If I remember correctly (always a maybe) welding for ship construction began to be really widespread with the introduction of the Liberty Ships. That was also the beginning of "modular" construction for ships.

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Bump again. I think I forgot about this thread!

So what is everyone up to?
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Hey Jonathan
Recently became a Scout Merit Badge counselor for the welding merit badge, had 4 students (2 at a time) so far. They have to weld beads on plate, then do a butt, lap and tee joint on steel. The guys have done better then I (worried) thought they would. It's cool to watch them learn this, even one of the Dad's tried running a few beads.

Listening to the podcast every week, who would have thought 155 episodes and going strong. Won't be going to Fabtech this year, Atlanta 2018 was my first, went to the preshow at JD's shop and met a lot of guys, would like to go to Vegas for a show.
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I happened to bump into WeldinMike the other day which resulted in the froth being blown off the top of some fair pints.
It was awesome to meet him and I think I talked his ears off!
Sorry about that Mick!
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Got any snaps of you 2 sipping pints? ;)
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Sadly no. If I'd have kept my mouth shut long enough perhaps the thought may have occurred to us.
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Congrats on the counceling position.
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Coldman wrote:Congrats on the counceling position.
Thanks ;)
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Superiorwelding wrote:Bump again. I think I forgot about this thread!

So what is everyone up to?
-Jonathan Lewis
work is getting into its busy season as we roll into spring. i think yesterday was the first day for the month where it has not rained :D
i've been setting up the plant, fabbing a few bits up. welding, electrics, plumbing etc. man of many hats.

still got 4x4 projects to do if i get time.
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Hahaha, I don't think anyone can out talk me. Especially about welding. Not a great lot of expertise in the subject but I definitely love talking about it. Did think about a photo but did get around to. So heres one of me drinking a beer.
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That's confusing - your on your side - I thought you were all upside down over there !
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You can pour the beer down faster that way.
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Sure can. And it's got to cold beer. Do they still have warm beer in England?
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Sometimes - but it's not a requirement ! we do have cold beer as well ! not really the best guy to ask - I don't drink anymore !
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Good to hear they discovered refrigeration. Body can be a little bit more important that a cold beer, can't it.
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