General welding questions that dont fit in TIG, MIG, Stick, or Certification etc.
$400 !!! wtfHarry72 wrote:There aint no haggling BOC around these parts, Im using one of the new VIPR bottles(Ar) thats equivalent to an old G size... you wouldnt buy a pack of ciggi's with the change from $400
Forget the counter guys. Ask to have a rep call you. Tell them you use 2-4 bottles a month and your current supplier is far cheaper cubic meter wise but you like the Vipr bottles. Let them know a mate in NSW put you onto them and act really confused as to why he is getting them for $110 and you are paying $350+ .... In other words just make up a plausible story lol. Once they set up gas rates they don't care about how much you actually use. See if they can lock in discounts for other gasses while you're at it. They still make a profit at the price below, goes to show how much margin is in it.
Nowadays people know the price of everything and the value of nothing... Oscar Wilde
Here I was thinking that all those folks worried about argon usage were just being stingy. Had no idea it was that expensive
Nowadays people know the price of everything and the value of nothing... Oscar Wilde
Brick and mortar is expensive these days. But my lws store is pretty price competitive for parts and filler. Gases are the exception. Argon has gone up 100% in the past 5 years. Still cheaper than the farm store. Odd that ~1% of the atmosphere is argon.
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Can't believe the incredible gap between prices of gas.
I'm only learning at the moment so it will probably be a while before I need gas since I only have stick and flux core machines.
Can't believe the incredible gap between prices of gas.
I'm only learning at the moment so it will probably be a while before I need gas since I only have stick and flux core machines.
Doc
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I will second what Rupes has to say - talk to a BOC rep.
I started out with Power 10 and then with Supagas. Working with Supagas was great, really liked them. Then one day very hesitantly got in touch with BOC (the Axis of Evil) and they had a rep call me.
Their first offer was a G size bottle for the same rent as Supagas was charging for an E, and the icing on the cake was the first fill was free.
So yes...forget over the counter and talk to a rep!
Kym
I started out with Power 10 and then with Supagas. Working with Supagas was great, really liked them. Then one day very hesitantly got in touch with BOC (the Axis of Evil) and they had a rep call me.
Their first offer was a G size bottle for the same rent as Supagas was charging for an E, and the icing on the cake was the first fill was free.
So yes...forget over the counter and talk to a rep!
Kym
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I bought a new packet of 312 stainless stick rods (weldalls) for 99 cents of ebay. They were new old stock and not clearly marked, so the astute shopper grabbed a bargain.
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I've tried talking to a BOC rep because Im in a regional town with only one outlet they always tell just go into the shop... dont want to know us because Im not a commercial customer
I just rang the shop to comfirm my price(been a few months) and my current price is $358 per fill and $236 per year container charge... bunch of rouges I tell ya
Just went on their website even there they want $324 + delivery
I just rang the shop to comfirm my price(been a few months) and my current price is $358 per fill and $236 per year container charge... bunch of rouges I tell ya
Just went on their website even there they want $324 + delivery
I just bullshitted my way into a good deal.
I had an ABN though and told them that the plumbing business (had only been registered for about 3 months at the time) had about 4 utes on the road and as a side we did a lot of custom fabrication and welding in house for our bigger plumbing projects so I would also like pricing on Stainshield, Argoshield and Argon on top of the oxy/acetylene pricing.
ABN is handy for a lot of things though and is dirt to cheap to register and also to register a business name. Worthwhile in the long run imo. From then on you are a commercial customer as far as anyone knows, not just BOC.
The website pricing changes depending on the account that logs in though, that one I posted is my pricing online or in shop. I asked about those new tanks a couple weeks ago. I think they said around $17 a month which is about $2 more than my E size rental. Not much to be done about rental costs, I think they are pretty much fixed.
I had an ABN though and told them that the plumbing business (had only been registered for about 3 months at the time) had about 4 utes on the road and as a side we did a lot of custom fabrication and welding in house for our bigger plumbing projects so I would also like pricing on Stainshield, Argoshield and Argon on top of the oxy/acetylene pricing.
ABN is handy for a lot of things though and is dirt to cheap to register and also to register a business name. Worthwhile in the long run imo. From then on you are a commercial customer as far as anyone knows, not just BOC.
The website pricing changes depending on the account that logs in though, that one I posted is my pricing online or in shop. I asked about those new tanks a couple weeks ago. I think they said around $17 a month which is about $2 more than my E size rental. Not much to be done about rental costs, I think they are pretty much fixed.
Nowadays people know the price of everything and the value of nothing... Oscar Wilde
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Ouch! As Rupes says, having an ABN is a big help.Harry72 wrote:I've tried talking to a BOC rep because Im in a regional town with only one outlet they always tell just go into the shop... dont want to know us because Im not a commercial customer
I just rang the shop to comfirm my price(been a few months) and my current price is $358 per fill and $236 per year container charge... bunch of rouges I tell ya
Just went on their website even there they want $324 + delivery
(I have an ABN and run my own business, although it has nothing to do with welding).
From memory my 'G' size bottle is about $90 to fill and costs $21 per month 'rent'. But they got me in with their 'first fill free', no doubt about it.
Kym
Im looking into an abn... for this reason and future ventures, possibly be starting a small business soon in my new shed out on a 10ac block(zoned farming so can carry a business there)I brought a few years back.... current building economic climate wont let us build our house that we wanted so I need some return from it to cover council rates etc etc
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