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Underpowered 120 volt stick/lift tig machine.

Postby sedanman » Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:17 am

I can't be the only one trying to learn tig with a "toaster". I picked up a cheap 120 volt inverter because the sales guy said "It's a tig welder too". It will only manage about 70 amps before it blows my 15 amp breaker. I have an electrician adding a sub panel to my garage this week and my Everlast 185dv should be here monday. I am willing to box up the toaster and send it to Jody for the purposes of making a video showing what such a tiny machine can actually do on a 15 amp circuit. I'll pay shipping both ways and there is no time limit. Interested? As mentioned, there have to be a fair number of people struggling with this. At least with the 185dv, I'll have enough machine so I can no longer blame the equipment, it'll all be me.
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Re: Underpowered 120 volt stick/lift tig machine.

Postby soutthpaw » Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:11 am

sedanman wrote:I can't be the only one trying to learn tig with a "toaster". I picked up a cheap 120 volt inverter because the sales guy said "It's a tig welder too". It will only manage about 70 amps before it blows my 15 amp breaker. I have an electrician adding a sub panel to my garage this week and my Everlast 185dv should be here monday. I am willing to box up the toaster and send it to Jody for the purposes of making a video showing what such a tiny machine can actually do on a 15 amp circuit. I'll pay shipping both ways and there is no time limit. Interested? As mentioned, there have to be a fair number of people struggling with this. At least with the 185dv, I'll have enough machine so I can no longer blame the equipment, it'll all be me.

I have the Powertig 185DV. It's a great little machine...
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Re: Underpowered 120 volt stick/lift tig machine.

Postby Otto Nobedder » Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:01 pm

sedanman wrote:I can't be the only one trying to learn tig with a "toaster"...


No. This is a common experience. Your first warning should have been in the words, "The salesman said..."

I've had remarkable success with very minimal Harbor Freight machines, but I've been welding over 30 years. The toasters are not ideal for beginners. I think you're going to love the Everlast after your previous experience.

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Re: Underpowered 120 volt stick/lift tig machine.

Postby rahtreelimbs » Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:35 am

Go to a dedicated 25 amp circuit and things will be better.
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Re: Underpowered 120 volt stick/lift tig machine.

Postby sedanman » Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:16 am

Right, and it's coming. The electrician is at the house today. But there are people that will only ever have access to 15 amps of 120 volt power.
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Re: Underpowered 120 volt stick/lift tig machine.

Postby sedanman » Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:59 pm

Ok. This is with the toaster. I have burned about a quarter pound of tig rod in my lifetime. l know these welds look like fidos butt. I ran out shame many years ago so here is a shot from today's practice session. This would be so much easier with a mentor watching over my shoulder. I just got a stubby gas lense/tig finger bundle and the included bonus cd had a clip of Jody welding this same joint on 80 amps, he said it was the minimum amperage and not ideal but it could be done, so I tried it. Can only get better from here.
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Re: Underpowered 120 volt stick/lift tig machine.

Postby Otto Nobedder » Sun Apr 24, 2016 12:05 am

That ain't damn bad at all for a toaster! I see one spot of undercut in one ripple.

I like your comment about running out of shame. I relate to it; You can not embarrass me. ( I still can, but I won't let others...)

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Re: Underpowered 120 volt stick/lift tig machine.

Postby sedanman » Sun Apr 24, 2016 9:29 pm

Thank you for the encouragement.
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Re: Underpowered 120 volt stick/lift tig machine.

Postby sedanman » Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:51 am

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The Everlast arrived yesterday................BROKEN!
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Re: Underpowered 120 volt stick/lift tig machine.

Postby Coldman » Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:28 am

Now that really rots your socks. That's the downer of mail order vs bricks and mortar. Sorry about all the crap you are going through now.
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