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Anyone interested in stocking up on Titanium TIG filler rod

Postby Oscar » Tue May 05, 2015 3:06 pm

So a few months back I had gotten an itch to try to learn to weld titanium. I looked around for filler rod pricing (since it is usually very expensive), and found a couple places willing to do business on relatively small orders, with chinese-produced Ti 6AL-4V ELI.

Shipping from USA: I'm looking for people who are willing to spit out around ~$275 shipping-included, for a 5-lb chunk (0.035", or 0.045", or 1/16").
  • ERTi-5/Gr.5 - 0.035” - $45/lb (Chinese)
  • ERTi-5 ELI/Gr.23 - 0.045” - $52.95/lb (Chinese)
  • ERTi-5 ELI/Gr.23 - 1/16” - $51.40/lb (Chinese) (they also have a 5.5 lbs-open package, made in USA from chinese billet, not subject to M.O.Q.)

FYI:
  • 5-lb of 0.035" Ti = Qty: ~902 x 36" long pieces
  • 5-lb of 0.045" Ti = Qty: ~546 x 36" long pieces
  • 5-lb of 0.0625" Ti = Qty: ~283 x 36" long pieces

They also offer ERTi-5 ELI/Gr.23 in 0.030" diameter in 10-15 lb spools @ $30/lb.

FYI:
  • 10 lbs of 0.030" Ti = 7,368 ft = Equivalent Qty: 2,456 @ 36" long pieces.



Shipping from China, here $250 would get you approx. ~2.5 kg/5.5 lbs ERTi-5 ELI/Gr.23 0.045", I've already factored in the shipping costs.
Slightly more for 0.035", slightly less for 1/16".


5 kg (~11 lbs) = $45.55/lb (~$500 for 11 lbs, shipped)
10 kg (~22 lbs) = $43.56/lb (~$958 for 22 lbs shipped)


So......who's in? Everywhere else is $75+ per pound. If you buy 10-sticks at a time on Ebay or where-ever, you're paying the equivalent of ~$150+ per pound(!).
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Re: Anyone interested in stocking up on Titanium TIG filler

Postby massacre » Tue May 05, 2015 4:15 pm

I would jump in with you on this Oscar, but I really don't ever weld Ti.

Sorry bud.
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Re: Anyone interested in stocking up on Titanium TIG filler

Postby GG47 » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:57 am

I don't support Chinese, sorry... Every consider the actual people behing your discount? Doesn't USA require a certification/contract in supplying Ti?
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Re: Anyone interested in stocking up on Titanium TIG filler

Postby GreinTime » Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:04 am

GG47 wrote:I don't support Chinese, sorry... Every consider the actual people behing your discount? Doesn't USA require a certification/contract in supplying Ti?

Let's get some facts straight here. China, Japan, and Russia are 3 of the biggest exporters of Titanium in no particular order. The United States imports primarily from Kazakhstan and Japan for most of its Titanium products (as a whole, not just for welding) and then uses a few different processes to refine it.

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Re: Anyone interested in stocking up on Titanium TIG filler

Postby GG47 » Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:49 am

Alright Fact Cutter-
I still don't support China, Japan or Russia on anything, flat out-
I, Myself am not part of the poison.
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Re: Anyone interested in stocking up on Titanium TIG filler

Postby rick9345 » Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:26 am

GG47 wrote:Alright Fact Cutter-
I still don't support China, Japan or Russia on anything, flat out-
I, Myself am not part of the poison.


This is a list of countries by titanium production in 2010–2013 based on USGS figures.[1][2] The production figures are for titanium sponge, units are in metric tons.
Rank Country/Region 2010 2011 2012 2013
World 137,000 186,000 200,000 222,000
1 China China 57,800 60,000 80,000 100,000
2 Russia Russia 25,800 40,000 44,000 45,000
3 Japan Japan 31,600 56,000 40,000 40,000
4 Kazakhstan Kazakhstan 14,500 20,700 25,000 27,000
5 Ukraine Ukraine 7,400 9,000 10,000 10,000
6 India India 00 00 00 500
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Re: Anyone interested in stocking up on Titanium TIG filler

Postby GreinTime » Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:41 am

This GG47 was a xenophobic dick, no? That's twice in the last 4 posts I looked at that he had something ridiculous to say about other countries lol

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Re: Anyone interested in stocking up on Titanium TIG filler

Postby motox » Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:23 pm

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Re: Anyone interested in stocking up on Titanium TIG filler

Postby Artie F. Emm » Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:15 pm

A friend of mine works at the US Geological Survey- titanium is considered a "strategic" mineral, or has some designation like that. He gave me a book on the topic, i'll have to see what's the deal. I'll report back with any good info.
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Re: Anyone interested in stocking up on Titanium TIG filler

Postby rick9345 » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:33 am

Note: USA not on list
This is a list of countries by titanium production in 2010–2013 based on USGS figures.[1][2] The production figures are for titanium sponge, units are in metric tons.
Rank Country/Region 2010 2011 2012 2013
World 137,000 186,000 200,000 222,000
1 China China 57,800 60,000 80,000 100,000
2 Russia Russia 25,800 40,000 44,000 45,000
3 Japan Japan 31,600 56,000 40,000 40,000
4 Kazakhstan Kazakhstan 14,500 20,700 25,000 27,000
5 Ukraine Ukraine 7,400 9,000 10,000 10,000
6 India India 00 00 00 500
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