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Re: For you machinists...
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:05 am
by electrode
I never thought too deep into Einsteins theory. I have wondered about ufo's though.
Here is a related thought though on time travel. There is a short commercial before the short (15 or 20 second) video. After you watch the video you can wait and it will auto-play some more without the commercial.
http://tinyurl.com/jmsnf48
Re: For you machinists...
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:38 pm
by LtBadd
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Re: For you machinists...
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:01 am
by Otto Nobedder
LtBadd wrote:image0351.jpg
I looked in to that. It's from a partnership in geriatric medicine, called "Grandfather Pair-o-Docs."
Re: For you machinists...
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:04 am
by Poland308
That's a good one.
Re: For you machinists...
Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:30 pm
by JEKS
noddybrian wrote:Wow - this has to be the strangest " off topic " yet ! clearly there are some great minds here being used at less than their true potential in their current jobs - not sure if the academic community is ready to be challenged by alternate theories of space / time / gravity yet - they tend to have a set mind once one theory becomes accepted - even if you can prove something new they stick to the accepted version of things - maybe if welding becomes too mundane it would worth applying to the " Star Gate " program ? !
Noddy, I agree there are some great minds here.
I disagree on the academic community being challenged.
If you work with or know scientists, you'll find that most are thirsty for new theories.
They rightly tear new theories to shreds since that is the basis of the scientific method.
If it survives, it warrants further investigation. Weak ones die early.
The only ones that stick around without merit are the ones which are not scientific theories, but ideas that non-scientists really want to be true. Wanting something to be true doesn't make it so and science says it ain't so lest it is testable and follows from a narrative which is testable/provable all the way back to fundamentals.
- John
Re: For you machinists...
Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:09 pm
by Otto Nobedder
Quite true, John,
But, as it stands, my theory is no more or less provable than dark matter or dark energy, as science can only imply them, not observe them at this point. I would love to be proven wrong, or proven right. Either is acceptable, so long as we have quantifiable data from direct observation.
Steve S
Re: For you machinists...
Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:53 pm
by JEKS
Steve, but your theory has the narrative I mentioned.
It isn't coming out of vacuum because you want it to be true, even if you do.
Your footings are based in a heritage of scientific background going back quite far.
That heritage welcomes challenge, in opposition to the comment made by noddybrian.
Put another way, there are no scientific conspiracies.
Scientists are the last people who would reject something to preserve status quo.
That's my only point.
Re: For you machinists...
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:36 pm
by Otto Nobedder
Sadly, science (as a community) has a long history of resisting new ideas even in the face of evidence. Acceptance of significant change comes slowly, when it flies in the face of what you've studied and believed to be true. Granted, the change does come, but rarely is it instant. This, too, I suppose is the scientific method, opposing a new idea until sufficiently convinced by the evidence.
Steve S
Re: For you machinists...
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 2:29 pm
by Poland308
Interject all the recent info on studies done that involve use of mice that gave incomplete data. Even though there are better ways ( still sometimes animal based studies I'm not anti animal study ) but the structure to maintain and rely on use of the same processes due to already invested $ trumps scientific theory.
Re: For you machinists...
Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:47 pm
by JEKS
Steve, you may be right on the whole, taking into account the entire population and all endeavors.
I tend to think scientists fall on the 'ready to believe, with evidence' side of that curve.
Cheers - J
Re: For you machinists...
Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:44 am
by cptjackm
EINSTEIN?
Did I dial the wrong number here?
Otto Nobedder wrote:LtBadd wrote:Otto Nobedder wrote:I had no doubt some of you were familiar, but we have some newer entrants to machining with new (or new-to-you) equipment looking for projects and knowledge, so I had to share this guy.
Also, horology interests me.
Steve S
does that include "space time"?
"Gravity as Curved Spacetime. ... Gravity feels strongest where spacetime is most curved, and it vanishes where spacetime is flat. This is the core of Einstein's theory of general relativity, which is often summed up in words as follows: "matter tells spacetime how to curve, and curved spacetime tells matter how to move".
I think Einstein got it wrong. Close, but wrong. I think the current crop of astrophysicists chasing intangible "dark matter" and "dark energy" support my theory.
The graphic representation of matter in space-time is a "fabric", curved by the presence of matter, like a bowling ball on a trampoline (as an easy analogy). This assumes, both graphically and in his math, that space-time is an infinitely compressible fluid.
Place that trampoline fabric on a swimming pool, edges sealed... The water then represents an incompressible fluid. Put your bowling ball in the middle, and you still get curved space-time around the ball. What do you get, displaced some distance from the ball? Fabric above the zero point, sloping away toward the edge. This neatly explains matter in the universe moving apart and accelerating, and also explains the Pioneer anomaly, which future missions did not adequately investigate.
Steve S
Re: For you machinists...
Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:59 pm
by Poland308
All paths cross at some point.
Re: For you machinists...
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:12 am
by cornmuse
LtBadd wrote:image0351.jpg
The Time Travelers Society Annual Meeting will be held last Tuesday, , , , ,
Re: For you machinists...
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:08 pm
by LtBadd
cornmuse wrote:LtBadd wrote:image0351.jpg
The Time Travelers Society Annual Meeting will be held last Tuesday, , , , ,
That's a good one...
This way they can ensure ONLY time travelers will be there
Re: For you machinists...
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:11 pm
by Otto Nobedder
I'll be there last Tuesday.
That's what dreams are for!
Steve
Re: For you machinists...
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:12 pm
by Poland308
I'll put it on my calander, but I may not have the founds to make the trip.
Re: For you machinists...
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:05 am
by noddybrian
I'm sure there should be a flux capacitor joke around here !
Re: For you machinists...
Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:28 pm
by medsar
Otto Nobedder wrote:LtBadd wrote:Otto Nobedder wrote:I had no doubt some of you were familiar, but we have some newer entrants to machining with new (or new-to-you) equipment looking for projects and knowledge, so I had to share this guy.
Also, horology interests me.
Steve S
does that include "space time"?
"Gravity as Curved Spacetime. ... Gravity feels strongest where spacetime is most curved, and it vanishes where spacetime is flat. This is the core of Einstein's theory of general relativity, which is often summed up in words as follows: "matter tells spacetime how to curve, and curved spacetime tells matter how to move".
I think Einstein got it wrong. Close, but wrong. I think the current crop of astrophysicists chasing intangible "dark matter" and "dark energy" support my theory.
The graphic representation of matter in space-time is a "fabric", curved by the presence of matter, like a bowling ball on a trampoline (as an easy analogy). This assumes, both graphically and in his math, that space-time is an infinitely compressible fluid.
Place that trampoline fabric on a swimming pool, edges sealed... The water then represents an incompressible fluid. Put your bowling ball in the middle, and you still get curved space-time around the ball. What do you get, displaced some distance from the ball? Fabric above the zero point, sloping away toward the edge. This neatly explains matter in the universe moving apart and accelerating, and also explains the Pioneer anomaly, which future missions did not adequately investigate.
Steve S
I think you would enjoy non-newtonian physics, quantum physics and particle physics. While math heavy, they will give you insight into your theory and possibly a way to model the theory. By 'insight into your theory' -- I mean that in a good way. It is purported that Einstein said himself that he thought his theory was incomplete and he was unable to get a unified theory. Your thoughts and theories are a good thing and I encourage you to explore them. Unfortunately, math is a prime language in physics and it will be math heavy. However, the systems are eye-opening and jaw dropping when the math is understood.