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Re: Another 6010 Question.

Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 7:57 pm
by MinnesotaDave
RamboBaby wrote:Alright guys, life just threw me a curve ball. I bought the metal for my practice coupons but......a friend of mine showed his boss a few pictures of my tig welds and his boss told him to get me in there because he wants me to start work tomorrow morning. He said it would pay between $16 & $18/hr to start, welding mostly 11 gauge stainless. I don't even know what in the hell they make there but I'm assuming that it's most likely kitchen equipment. I've only ever had any practice on 16 gauge stainless and only, exactly, ONE of those welds turned out well. Pray for me guys because I'm gonna need all of the help that I can get! I'm taking my tig welder with me because Rick_H proved to me that this thing is a master of autogenous stainless welding in pulse mode.
I've been trying to get this kind of job for nearly four years and this one just fell into my lap.
HELP!!!!!!
Congrats man - keep practicing and go get 'em :)

I had some thin stainless dropped off at my place a while back.
Had to be food grade when done, $500 worth of material, I spent 8 hours practicing for 5-6hrs of work.... :shock:

But it's my part-time side work, so it worked out :D

As far as help goes, need pics - but I can tell you that using the right amount of amps so you can start moving right away is important.

Dawdling around and you'll just cook it. Colors will go dark.

Re: Another 6010 Question.

Posted: Sat May 27, 2017 7:57 am
by exnailpounder
Good luck and let us know what happens.

Re: Another 6010 Question.

Posted: Sat May 27, 2017 4:18 pm
by RamboBaby
I got started @$12/hr and was told that if all goes well then I'll get boosted to $15/hr after one month. I think my welds look terrible but these guys are extremely pleased. When the owner saw how much I had done and how it looked, he boosted me up to $14/hr. I think my welds look like total shit but these guys think they're great. I'm not gonna argue. These are mostly veryical welds and it only took me a couple of tries to figure out that down hill is the way to go.

Re: Another 6010 Question.

Posted: Sat May 27, 2017 5:22 pm
by Poland308
If that's how they feel then it sounds like a great place for you to get some experience on ss.

Re: Another 6010 Question.

Posted: Sat May 27, 2017 5:29 pm
by Farmwelding
:o BSX gloves?!?!?!? There is a traitor amongst us! Nah I'm just playing. I have a BSX jacket from before the whole tig finger thing but it's getting replaced because I hate it.

As for the job-more money for getting better is always a good thing. What is that part in the picture for?

Re: Another 6010 Question.

Posted: Sat May 27, 2017 6:28 pm
by RamboBaby
Conveyor for a cake factory.
My big toes hurt from welding on my knees all day. I can't feed rod with my right hand and didn't realize it until today. That's making this a lot harder than it has to be.
Edit:
Even at 105amps their aircooled torch sux! I gotta make an outlet adapter so I can use my own rig with a watercooled torch. This crap gets hot, quick. I don't have enough tig fingers to stop the pain.

Re: Another 6010 Question.

Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 5:57 pm
by Popeye the old miner
Good Luck and best wishes on your new adventure

Re: Another 6010 Question.

Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 6:14 pm
by Farmwelding
Is that normal pay for that work down there? We have a local stainless trailer company who hires tig welders like you all stainless welding at similar material thickness and they pay $18-$20 starting tig welding. Of course I live in the heart of overpriced manufacturing jobs apparently but...

Re: Another 6010 Question.

Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 10:45 pm
by RamboBaby
No, not typical pay. I think their main guy makes about $22/hr but they can't get any work out of him anymore. I think the guy has a drug problem and I'm gonna be replacing him fully as soon as they've had time to assess my performance. I was told that I did more in three hours than their main guy had done in an entire week. The boss really just wants someone who will show up and actually work. Now you know how I got the job. The boss likes me because I actually work like I'm supposed to, rather than how I feel like doing.

Re: Another 6010 Question.

Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 11:24 pm
by PeteM
Haha! Best thread ever. Starts out with some questions about 6010, turns into "Got a job tig welding".

Congrats man.

Re: Another 6010 Question.

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 7:39 am
by RamboBaby
Thanks Pete. I'm just as surprised as you are.

Re: Another 6010 Question.

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:47 pm
by olek
PeteM wrote:I can't be sure about other machines, but the last open root I ran was on a miller dynasty. The arc force/dig was set at a little past 12:00 and ran like a champ, so maybe 60%?

The main thing with open root is getting the stick through to the back side without poking it all the way out the other side. You have to listen for it to make a hollow shooooo sound (even on plate). If it isn't doing that the tip isn't placed right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAKoA8ng5-M

This vid by Jody is pretty much text book. He's whipping. I try to drag. Tomatoes/tomatoes. There is also a new vid up on weld dot coms channel that has the sound perfectly. One other thing to keep in mind with 6010 is that the slag forms as it cools, so when the metal is going down, what you see is what you're getting. With the reinforcement on back, the bead should only be filling the root gap to the top of the land (root face). You kind of have to drag the rod a little forward of the pool.

It takes a little bit for it to all come together, but once it does you'll wonder what the big deal was. It's like pulling up a zipper.

edit: Also, don't know if you do it or not but- the back side has to be clean too. You will not get good fusion if the backside has mill scale on it.

edit#2: there is also a vid on the afore mentioned channel that demonstrates dragging open root on plate perfectly. Notice how he leads the pool forward through the weld.
Hello

I find interesting to look at those videos again regularly, each time understanding better what is going on (due to training)

What kind of rod would I use for root pass open root if I cannot get 6010 ? AS I understand it it should work with a relatively low amp setting, would SS rod 308 do the trick ? (I could find SS plate if it is necessary but on steel, what kind of steel would do ?)

A link to the drag open root if you have it at hand ? thanks
Thank you