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another solution utilizing a buzz box nobody mentioned is brazing with a carbon arc torch. this works on ultra light material better than shielded arc welding. there's even at least one video on you-tube called of all things,"brazing with a carbon arc torch". as my old oma use to say, there's more than one way to shuck an oyster.
Well I had a verry nasty and big hole at front of my rear wheel, on my old rusry beast
Well done much to fix it today. buth did not catched all the work on camera...damn rain fu*ked me all day. it rains and then it stops and sun shines, and than it rains again
Here are few pictures so you can see my buz box working it down...
enjoy
Well done much to fix it today. buth did not catched all the work on camera...damn rain fu*ked me all day. it rains and then it stops and sun shines, and than it rains again
Here are few pictures so you can see my buz box working it down...
enjoy
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Qwerty12,
Looks like by the time you're finished it will be made of more 6013 rod than Opal. Who knows, maybe you can start a car manufacturing plant using just your buzz box and a lot of 6013 rods.
Len
Looks like by the time you're finished it will be made of more 6013 rod than Opal. Who knows, maybe you can start a car manufacturing plant using just your buzz box and a lot of 6013 rods.
Len
Now go melt something.
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well it may look so buth it does not consumes rods much...only few rods went on all that welding...and 1kg of them is 3.3 usd ant that is not expencive. when you weld thin sheeet with 2.5mm rod and 80 amps...you do it in a start and stop quickly motion so rods last long.
and talking abouth factory...well I only need some big garrage(do not have anny) and a container full of sheet metal and few boxes of rods...I could make you a car well maye it would took me a year or two buth I could make it somehow
just need someone to rent me his garage, give me some sheet metal and rods, and pay electrisity bills for my buzzzz box
and talking abouth factory...well I only need some big garrage(do not have anny) and a container full of sheet metal and few boxes of rods...I could make you a car well maye it would took me a year or two buth I could make it somehow
just need someone to rent me his garage, give me some sheet metal and rods, and pay electrisity bills for my buzzzz box
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If we could all find that guy we would all be happy welders. Earlier when you said it rained then the sun shines and then rain again I thought we might be neighbors. Sounds a lot like Pittsburgh,Pennsylvania. Glad to see your welds are looking a little better.
Len
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Now go melt something.
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No I do not live in pensilvania, I live in a small land simillar to transilvania...only we here in bosnia do not have vampires
as for the weelds...welll i feal really bad because I cant make them better. are strong enought thats important. tested all with hammer. its easy to tear the sheet apart than to brokr the weld. buth i am still not satysfyed. they should look much much more better.
the problem is i realy do not know how else I could emprove them. seams like i have reached my own limit
as for the weelds...welll i feal really bad because I cant make them better. are strong enought thats important. tested all with hammer. its easy to tear the sheet apart than to brokr the weld. buth i am still not satysfyed. they should look much much more better.
the problem is i realy do not know how else I could emprove them. seams like i have reached my own limit
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The only limits we have are the ones we put on ourself.
I'm not sure what all tools you have to use, but you need to clean the rust off as well as possible. Rust and paint are some of your worst enemies while trying to weld steel. The rust may seem to melt into the weld but it actually becomes porosity in the weld and needs to be removed beforehand. The coating on the rod will flux some of it out, but if you are melting the sheet metal into the weld, you are likely getting the rust from the back side of the panels into your welds.
It's hard to give you instructions on how to get good results on what most of us would consider an impossible task. If you think that there are welders out here welding rusty car panels with an A/C stick welder and 6013 rods and getting excellent results, you would be wrong. For what you are trying to do with what you have to work with you are doing just fine.
Len
I'm not sure what all tools you have to use, but you need to clean the rust off as well as possible. Rust and paint are some of your worst enemies while trying to weld steel. The rust may seem to melt into the weld but it actually becomes porosity in the weld and needs to be removed beforehand. The coating on the rod will flux some of it out, but if you are melting the sheet metal into the weld, you are likely getting the rust from the back side of the panels into your welds.
It's hard to give you instructions on how to get good results on what most of us would consider an impossible task. If you think that there are welders out here welding rusty car panels with an A/C stick welder and 6013 rods and getting excellent results, you would be wrong. For what you are trying to do with what you have to work with you are doing just fine.
Len
Now go melt something.
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Well...as a fella named Eric Cartman once said: "God dam hipys" this was a verry hard day. Yesterday I was working 3rh shift from 18h yesterday unthil 7h in the morning today. Gone home and slept till 9h. And than started working on my old rusty car. Few day ago a finished front parth of the car bot sides. and also a left side of back wheel. Today left back side was left...and it was one that was most rusty. And as a real gentleman...i have decided that hardest things must come last BEEN working from 9h today until 23:30h in the night. Done lot of grinding, cuting, sheet metal shaping(thats the hardest thing in this job for me) welding, grinding again, welding again, burning trought...swearing , painting, puting fiber glas filler, sanding it... Well the job is finaly over one hour ago and my rusty old car is ready to roll tomorow again.
Here are some pictures of me doing it wit the ol buzboxx
Pictures are really bad,as it was raining all fucking day. That made me realy mad. I was all day in the mud, under the old rusty car...buth I made some gipsy kinda roof over the car so I managed to do the job.
Enyoj on pictures(they are bad...buth it was cloudy and some of them are late at night taken):
Well...here is a nice litle oll rusty car colapse. Before grinding it all looked so nice(forgot to picture)...just few bublles. Buth when starded to grind bubles...it was a rust disaster:
This one is taken at only sunny moment today...its warry bad picture buth you can see the big hole in front of the rear left wheel.
Tunel was full of mud and sand and rust:
And the magic begun. Oll buzzbox started to buzzing and job was done:
Most problems had with places where grip pliers could not reach and was not able to hold metal on car. In that moment had to tackle sheet. One hand holding the sheet, other hand welding. Painful to the eyes buth no other way to do it. When you tackle it...take mask again and weld it nice spot by spot.
Discowered an realy good thing...when welded under parths of sheet. On some places new rod could not reach welding position...so I had to cut them on half. Oh...why noebody said that before to me...its much easyer to weld with such 2 shorter than with 1 long rod. Because in those akward out of reach and out of neck fatigue positions it is realy hard to position the rod correctly.
Buth when discovered that metod...made it like pro.
Look of these 3 beautyfil welds pictures:
Shame on you mig bastards
I have a joke for you. What can a mig guy do when he sees qwerty welding rusty 0.8mm shett metal with ac 160 apms buzz box? Well the mig guy only can sitt in corner and cry And be jelaous
Just kidding guys. I know you all can do it better then myself. Buth afther all night working at job and all day repairing old rusty car, must take a brake and put a smile on my face.
Wel...afther all those welding...we had to grind it all. And than put on all that base anticorosive paint.
Well not to lie to you...i made lot of burntrought holes today...its not the problem in my 0.8mm sheet metal...problem is in rusty old car body. man when you grind it to shiny new metal that is so thin you cant beleave it. Easy to burn trought. Buth...noting to big...
Those mistakes I had to correct with some fiberglass filer:
hehe at the end all looks like new. No holes
Man...I should make money with my buzzbox if I made a comercial like this: Fiberglas filler, and base paint: FIXING bad welders errors since their invention
Afther fiber hardens...outer side is sanded and later will be painted. Inner side I covered with some black underbody protection:
And that was all...car looks like new:
Now little fuynny pictures:
This is the mud I wass all day inside:
Thats my homemade rain protecing roof. Gipsy style pantent nmb:61992p. patent pending.
Well...the ground was wet before...and the car to...but thanks to that roof I worked on dry...and whats most important my oll buzzbox was not on the rain.
Rainy glases of my oll rusty car:
One more picture of that gipsy styling roof
And this lady and gentleman. Welders and weldors...this is one special person. Helps me with my welding. SHe is the master of it. Knows always what arc lenght to aply, what amperage, what rods, what position. Knows how much to grind, how to shape sheet metal, how to put fiberglas filler on it, how to paint. And so shee all days stays by mu side and watches what I am doing. I must by a helmet for her to.
Let me introduce you her:
Its my small cat and I call her Maca, which on serbian means Cat
Found her few mounts ago...it had only few days,and was abandoned,somebody droped her in garbage container. I was going back home and saw her,felt sory for her,so picked it up, puted her in oll rusty car and brought her home. Now is she helping me fix that same car because she is feeling grateful
Look how she comand me how to do things...because Maca is a welding pro. Not some loosy beginer as me.
"hey you give me those roods...must smell them to se are they 6011 or 6013" "
Damn it smells like 6013. Not the best ones buth they will do the job"
"Now listen to me carefuly. You must set for lower amperage. Tackle weld for short bursts, being careful not to burntrought,,,and still holding enought to make good penetration. Understood?"
"Oh you amateur foul. You burned that cars body again. How manny times I said yo you be careful with those sheet metal. You nevver gonna lern it.
Give me that rod I must to it all alone"
Well... thats all folks. Hope you enjoyed.
Feel free to coment and give both positive and negative opinions on my welding.
Thats all for me on those couple days. tomorow at 12:00 I go on a business trip with my oll rusty car it would be a rocky mountain 200km road trip. will be back on forum for couple of days.
Here are some pictures of me doing it wit the ol buzboxx
Pictures are really bad,as it was raining all fucking day. That made me realy mad. I was all day in the mud, under the old rusty car...buth I made some gipsy kinda roof over the car so I managed to do the job.
Enyoj on pictures(they are bad...buth it was cloudy and some of them are late at night taken):
Well...here is a nice litle oll rusty car colapse. Before grinding it all looked so nice(forgot to picture)...just few bublles. Buth when starded to grind bubles...it was a rust disaster:
This one is taken at only sunny moment today...its warry bad picture buth you can see the big hole in front of the rear left wheel.
Tunel was full of mud and sand and rust:
And the magic begun. Oll buzzbox started to buzzing and job was done:
Most problems had with places where grip pliers could not reach and was not able to hold metal on car. In that moment had to tackle sheet. One hand holding the sheet, other hand welding. Painful to the eyes buth no other way to do it. When you tackle it...take mask again and weld it nice spot by spot.
Discowered an realy good thing...when welded under parths of sheet. On some places new rod could not reach welding position...so I had to cut them on half. Oh...why noebody said that before to me...its much easyer to weld with such 2 shorter than with 1 long rod. Because in those akward out of reach and out of neck fatigue positions it is realy hard to position the rod correctly.
Buth when discovered that metod...made it like pro.
Look of these 3 beautyfil welds pictures:
Shame on you mig bastards
I have a joke for you. What can a mig guy do when he sees qwerty welding rusty 0.8mm shett metal with ac 160 apms buzz box? Well the mig guy only can sitt in corner and cry And be jelaous
Just kidding guys. I know you all can do it better then myself. Buth afther all night working at job and all day repairing old rusty car, must take a brake and put a smile on my face.
Wel...afther all those welding...we had to grind it all. And than put on all that base anticorosive paint.
Well not to lie to you...i made lot of burntrought holes today...its not the problem in my 0.8mm sheet metal...problem is in rusty old car body. man when you grind it to shiny new metal that is so thin you cant beleave it. Easy to burn trought. Buth...noting to big...
Those mistakes I had to correct with some fiberglass filer:
hehe at the end all looks like new. No holes
Man...I should make money with my buzzbox if I made a comercial like this: Fiberglas filler, and base paint: FIXING bad welders errors since their invention
Afther fiber hardens...outer side is sanded and later will be painted. Inner side I covered with some black underbody protection:
And that was all...car looks like new:
Now little fuynny pictures:
This is the mud I wass all day inside:
Thats my homemade rain protecing roof. Gipsy style pantent nmb:61992p. patent pending.
Well...the ground was wet before...and the car to...but thanks to that roof I worked on dry...and whats most important my oll buzzbox was not on the rain.
Rainy glases of my oll rusty car:
One more picture of that gipsy styling roof
And this lady and gentleman. Welders and weldors...this is one special person. Helps me with my welding. SHe is the master of it. Knows always what arc lenght to aply, what amperage, what rods, what position. Knows how much to grind, how to shape sheet metal, how to put fiberglas filler on it, how to paint. And so shee all days stays by mu side and watches what I am doing. I must by a helmet for her to.
Let me introduce you her:
Its my small cat and I call her Maca, which on serbian means Cat
Found her few mounts ago...it had only few days,and was abandoned,somebody droped her in garbage container. I was going back home and saw her,felt sory for her,so picked it up, puted her in oll rusty car and brought her home. Now is she helping me fix that same car because she is feeling grateful
Look how she comand me how to do things...because Maca is a welding pro. Not some loosy beginer as me.
"hey you give me those roods...must smell them to se are they 6011 or 6013" "
Damn it smells like 6013. Not the best ones buth they will do the job"
"Now listen to me carefuly. You must set for lower amperage. Tackle weld for short bursts, being careful not to burntrought,,,and still holding enought to make good penetration. Understood?"
"Oh you amateur foul. You burned that cars body again. How manny times I said yo you be careful with those sheet metal. You nevver gonna lern it.
Give me that rod I must to it all alone"
Well... thats all folks. Hope you enjoyed.
Feel free to coment and give both positive and negative opinions on my welding.
Thats all for me on those couple days. tomorow at 12:00 I go on a business trip with my oll rusty car it would be a rocky mountain 200km road trip. will be back on forum for couple of days.
If you can get your hands on some 6011 you'd do much better with the dirt and rust. It's the AC version of 6010 which cools quicker too for those vertical and inverted positions. Do you have access to 6011?
Nils
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Once I wrecked all stores in my town looking for those 6011 rods...because somebody said to me they penetrate more...buth could not wind them.
Here in bosnia in most stores you can buy croatian zagreb electrodes and slovenian jadran electrodes. and both are 6013. maybe in some bigger stores there is 6011, buth in my small town there is no such thing...
And...when talking abouth those rods...as I figured it out 6013 is filler rod with wide pool and it goes not deep. And the 6011 is a deep penetration rood.
And I do not understand when people advice me to use 6011...if 6013 make burntrought and penetrate too much...than I can only imagine what would a deep penetration 6011 rods do...
Here in bosnia in most stores you can buy croatian zagreb electrodes and slovenian jadran electrodes. and both are 6013. maybe in some bigger stores there is 6011, buth in my small town there is no such thing...
And...when talking abouth those rods...as I figured it out 6013 is filler rod with wide pool and it goes not deep. And the 6011 is a deep penetration rood.
And I do not understand when people advice me to use 6011...if 6013 make burntrought and penetrate too much...than I can only imagine what would a deep penetration 6011 rods do...
Very entertaining photos and story about the success that you, and your cat, are having.
People recommend 6011 because it is a "fast freeze" rod. On your job 6011 would have to be run quite differently than the 6013.
With 6011 you would have to almost "spot weld" and then let the work cool. Spot weld a bit more then cool some more. If you hold the arc too long it will certainly burn big holes through the work.
You are doing just fine with the 6013 and the progress being made is remarkable given the circumstances.
People recommend 6011 because it is a "fast freeze" rod. On your job 6011 would have to be run quite differently than the 6013.
With 6011 you would have to almost "spot weld" and then let the work cool. Spot weld a bit more then cool some more. If you hold the arc too long it will certainly burn big holes through the work.
You are doing just fine with the 6013 and the progress being made is remarkable given the circumstances.
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Hey, Qwerty12,
I sent you another PM. There's been an offer of a trade, that might get you into a good quality hood in exchange for some work, rather than some cash.
Have a look, and think about it.
Steve S
I sent you another PM. There's been an offer of a trade, that might get you into a good quality hood in exchange for some work, rather than some cash.
Have a look, and think about it.
Steve S
Welded all day long...tryed my new toy
Wee putt waaaaay too much weight in my smal tractor trailer(as usual) and sudenly on those bumpy roads trailer felt apart man it was funny to look at that disolvation dissaster
bought feew u profiles on scrapyard and wellded thee poor trailor back again
one thing that passed on my mind couple times today... is there anny rood to weld lengt constant...
what do I meen is that 3.2 rood 6013 I use is 33 cm or 13 inches long....
well the question is how much lenght should a weld have with that rood asuuming I start it welding and goo straight until the rood is gone
Wee putt waaaaay too much weight in my smal tractor trailer(as usual) and sudenly on those bumpy roads trailer felt apart man it was funny to look at that disolvation dissaster
bought feew u profiles on scrapyard and wellded thee poor trailor back again
one thing that passed on my mind couple times today... is there anny rood to weld lengt constant...
what do I meen is that 3.2 rood 6013 I use is 33 cm or 13 inches long....
well the question is how much lenght should a weld have with that rood asuuming I start it welding and goo straight until the rood is gone
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My bad... I mistyped.
A 3,2 on 6mm is good for about 4 inches, or 10cm, not 100.
I said "100"
Sorry.
Steve S
A 3,2 on 6mm is good for about 4 inches, or 10cm, not 100.
I said "100"
Sorry.
Steve S
well then I am going waaay to fast I make 15 to 30 cm per one rod
Problem is when i do go slower...pudlle tryes to come in front of the rood and then I have slag inclusion and I weld with rood angle ofcourse...maybe 15 to 30 degrees
Problem is when i do go slower...pudlle tryes to come in front of the rood and then I have slag inclusion and I weld with rood angle ofcourse...maybe 15 to 30 degrees
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