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Re: How to get a quote from Jody?

Postby exnailpounder » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:46 am

pavetim wrote:Yeah i figured it would,be hard and if Jody says it can't be fixes ill give up., I was looking into those extreme high temp ceramic pastes but im afraid it will break free when I am 30 feet in the air lol. I know its water cooled but I wonder how hit that wall really gets cause those pastes say can withstand close and some to 2000F

I wouldn't trust any of those miracle concoctions. JB weld worked on the windshield grommet on my Harley but other than that I have never seen a "miracle in a tube" ever work properly for anything :lol: I would suspect your engine getting a good gulp of water at altitude and locking up might alter your evening plans :lol: I hope Jody would take this on as I bet there are a whole bunch of us that could learn something from it. I have seen some good welders pull rabbits out of a hat before so almost anything is possible.
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Re: How to get a quote from Jody?

Postby pavetim » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:24 am

Maybe Otto can touch base with him and see if he would be willing to take it on. I wouldn't even be mad if he wasn't successful, I know it may turn into a can of worms. The guy that did the head tried to fix it and weld it so there is a "base" there so maybe jody can just pick up on that. We will see if I can get ahold of him.
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Re: How to get a quote from Jody?

Postby Otto Nobedder » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:37 pm

pavetim wrote:See that spot, that's a hole into the water jacket.


Is that spot bright because of reflection, or because it's back-lit with a bright light in one of the water jacket ports?

I refuse to believe it's totally impossible to back this up... A length of #6AWG bare copper ground wire, with the end hammered into a flat or spoon, then bent in creative ways, even using the jacket paths to accomplish parts of the bending...

I have an email out to Joey (Jody's son) on another matter at the moment. When I get a reply, I'll bring this up. There's certainly enough information here for him to decide if it's worth looking at.

I, personally, would love to attempt this myself if Jody writes it off. After all, at that point, what is there to lose? My biggest gripe is the previous attempt at repair by someone who should have just said, "Oops!" and referred it back to you and involved more experienced welders. This affects the back side, inside the water jacket, and may require opening the hole more to remove whatever residue is there from the failed attempt.

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Re: How to get a quote from Jody?

Postby pavetim » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:50 pm

I have a borescope at work ill check it out next day or so and see how it looks from backside. I had a flashlight in the water jacket that's why its bright. Yeah Otto that's creative and something like,that backing idea could be done, water jackets are small that's why i said you cannot back it.
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Re: How to get a quote from Jody?

Postby exnailpounder » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:00 pm

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Re: How to get a quote from Jody?

Postby exnailpounder » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:00 pm

pavetim wrote:I have a borescope at work ill check it out next day or so and see how it looks from backside. I had a flashlight in the water jacket that's why its bright. Yeah Otto that's creative and something like,that backing idea could be done, water jackets are small that's why i said you cannot back it.

Are you planning on having the welds ground down so as to smooth out the air flow/water flow? I don't know the contours of the shape of the passages of that head but you may have eggshell thin metal for quite a big area which could result in a huge weld area. What is the head made of by the way? I think I see dis-similar metal valve seat inserts into a cast aluminum head?
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Re: How to get a quote from Jody?

Postby LtBadd » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:06 pm

exnailpounder wrote:.

Exactly! Jeff you have a talent for being concise. :lol:
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Re: How to get a quote from Jody?

Postby exnailpounder » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:12 pm

LtBadd wrote:
exnailpounder wrote:.

Exactly! Jeff you have a talent for being concise. :lol:

What ...??? :lol:
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Re: How to get a quote from Jody?

Postby pavetim » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:27 pm

Yes I will smooth welds out for airflow. Head is aluminum and the valve seats are beryllium copper and valve guides are manganese bronze, you have to use those exotic materials when you run titanium valves. Here are more pics for reference you should be able to see where he repaired it. I suppose if we had to we could open up the slits on the bottom which are the water jackets, build it back up and ill have the head machined flat again. But I don't wanna spend a fortune to do this so we will see what you guys or Jody can do.
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Re: How to get a quote from Jody?

Postby dirtmidget33 » Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:52 pm

Some head work actually has epoxy applied to ports to aid in achieving desired flow. This could possibly be done to your head to repair it. These epoxies are not the cheap cure all JB weld type stuff. Suggest contacting a good motor designer/builder that specializes in custom blocks and heads. Places I dealt with like Gearte, Esslinger, Stanton, and ed pink could prolly point you in right direction. Cost of doing this could be more then your head.
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