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Re: Aluminum on DC

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:05 pm
by Poland308
I would grind out the crack almost all the way through. Then weld one pass with filler. This first pass will likely be full of porosity and flakes of junk. But you grind out some of that nastyness and do the same thing over again. After one or two or three times most of the oxidation and contaminates will be gone. Then you have a solid base that will allow you to build on till you fill it out.

Re: Aluminum on DC

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:21 pm
by cj737
...Or, you grind it open, preheat with Propane to purge impurities, then clean with Acetone and Stainless brush. Then weld it up. Same process I've used heaps of times welding Jon boats impregnated with alkaline heavy water and mud. Its not fun, its not easy, but its very doable. I have never used He on these jobs, just straight Ar, though I have something coming up I might just whack it with... :idea:

Re: Aluminum on DC

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:35 am
by cherwolf
Thanks for insight, glad that I didn`t agree back then to use mig (Lincoln magnum I guess) that boss showed me and weld aluminium. Only thing I knew back then, that for AL welding you need round rollers and special liner. I would make a great hole in that tipper. :lol:

Re: Aluminum on DC

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:23 pm
by Gon-Welding951
Hi guys I'm new to the forum but not new to welding. I have been welding for a couple aerospace companies in Southern California. Anyways yes you can weld aluminum in DCEN with 100 percent helium high purity grade not balloon grade. If you know how to weld it it comes out just as nice as ac or even nicer, especially if it is really thick aluminum like 3/8 or thicker.

Re: Aluminum on DC

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:16 pm
by LtBadd
Gon-Welding951 wrote:Hi guys I'm new to the forum but not new to welding. I have been welding for a couple aerospace companies in Southern California. Anyways yes you can weld aluminum in DCEN with 100 percent helium high purity grade not balloon grade. If you know how to weld it it comes out just as nice as ac or even nicer, especially if it is really thick aluminum like 3/8 or thicker.
Welcome to the forum, is this process used at your facility? Got any photos you can post?

Re: Aluminum on DC

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:43 pm
by Olivero
LtBadd wrote:
Gon-Welding951 wrote:Hi guys I'm new to the forum but not new to welding. I have been welding for a couple aerospace companies in Southern California. Anyways yes you can weld aluminum in DCEN with 100 percent helium high purity grade not balloon grade. If you know how to weld it it comes out just as nice as ac or even nicer, especially if it is really thick aluminum like 3/8 or thicker.
Welcome to the forum, is this process used at your facility? Got any photos you can post?
Yeah! Pictures or it didn't happen....

Re: Aluminum on DC

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:55 am
by Gon-Welding951
Haha yeah here are a few jobs I did with DCEN, it's my first time posting pics. so hopefully they show up. And yes where I currently work we use DCEN.

Re: Aluminum on DC

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:43 am
by Coldman
You and the shop you work at rock. You've set the benchmark very high.


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Re: Aluminum on DC

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:23 am
by exnailpounder
Now THAT is aluminum welding! One question..what are those?

Re: Aluminum on DC

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:54 am
by MinnesotaDave
Pretty darn cool Gon-Welding951 :D

Since the amperage is dramatically less with DCEN on aluminum, mind telling what amps (approximately) those were welded at for reference?

Re: Aluminum on DC

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:57 am
by pgk
Very nice work ;)

Re: Aluminum on DC

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:14 pm
by Gon-Welding951
Thank you guys. Usually on 1/4- 3/8 around 205 amps anything thicker like 1/2- 2" 210- 250 amps. My favorite set up is a 3/32 red band tungsten #7 gas lens and 40- 60 cfh on helium.

Re: Aluminum on DC

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:36 pm
by cherwolf
What is the max thickness of Al you can weld with 160amps DC? (curious `bout this machine Migatronic Rallymig 161i)

Re: Aluminum on DC

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:00 pm
by MinnesotaDave
Gon-Welding951 wrote:Thank you guys. Usually on 1/4- 3/8 around 205 amps anything thicker like 1/2- 2" 210- 250 amps. My favorite set up is a 3/32 red band tungsten #7 gas lens and 40- 60 cfh on helium.
Thanks for the info - pretty cool process :)