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Which tig torch?

Postby S4m » Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:38 am

Hi all,

Bought a cros arc ac/dc tig 200amp welder to teach myself how to weld. Been practicing with stainless and ally. The torch i have is really awkward to use as the leads are so stiff and bulky. Not currently using a pedal and i think this isnt helping either. Can anyone suggest a reasonably priced pedal and torch combo that might give me a bit more control?
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Re: Which tig torch?

Postby LtBadd » Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:28 am

S4m, welcome to the forum
Judging by the brand of welder I'm guessing you might be somewhere in the UK? It helps if you provide a location in your profile, if even a country or city, not looking for a street address... :)

You didn't say if you're using an air or water cooled torch, the CK brand is certainly at the top of the list for recommendations for either air or water cooled. Welding with a water cooled torch is defiantly the way to go if it's in your budget.
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Re: Which tig torch?

Postby S4m » Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:52 pm

LtBadd wrote:S4m, welcome to the forum
Judging by the brand of welder I'm guessing you might be somewhere in the UK? It helps if you provide a location in your profile, if even a country or city, not looking for a street address... :)

You didn't say if you're using an air or water cooled torch, the CK brand is certainly at the top of the list for recommendations for either air or water cooled. Welding with a water cooled torch is defiantly the way to go if it's in your budget.


Hi,

Apologies yes im from the uk, near london. Current torch is air cooled and as i am only welding for a hobby i cant justify the whole water cooled outlay at the moment. I have looked at the ck torches but i cannot see how they would connect to my welder, i will try and attach a pic of the current connection and the plug for the button. I would like to replace the button for a pedal if possible...
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Re: Which tig torch?

Postby Otto Nobedder » Sun Apr 16, 2017 4:25 pm

Talk to CK directly. They can match the fittings and connectors for almost all brands.

Buying from e-bay and others puts compatibility checks on you, and you might be salvaging from your old torch to hook up the new one.

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Re: Which tig torch?

Postby cj737 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:48 pm

They sell a "SuperFlex" torch and cable kit with the Dinse style of connector (that's what your picture is showing). What you need to know is the size in MM of the Dinse, and whether your cable is a single or double (separate gas connection). Order the flexible head torch, you'll be much happier. You can order these cable/torch kits in air- or water- cooled, and up to 200 amps.

The pedal connection is different. SSC sells (in my opinion) a really comfortable and accurate pedal. You need know the connectonype or machine brand/model for compatibility.
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Re: Which tig torch?

Postby S4m » Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:55 pm

cj737 wrote:They sell a "SuperFlex" torch and cable kit with the Dinse style of connector (that's what your picture is showing). What you need to know is the size in MM of the Dinse, and whether your cable is a single or double (separate gas connection). Order the flexible head torch, you'll be much happier. You can order these cable/torch kits in air- or water- cooled, and up to 200 amps.

The pedal connection is different. SSC sells (in my opinion) a really comfortable and accurate pedal. You need know the connectonype or machine brand/model for compatibility.


Hey thanks for the reply, thats good, so i can measure the dinse connection and yes the gas line is separate, it plugs in next to the dinse connection, my argon bottle attaches to the back of the welder and thats it. So this current torch has 3 leads in it, power, gas and control. If i go for a foot pedal i will need only gas and the dinse. Probably be best to contact CK directly as others have said
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Re: Which tig torch?

Postby cj737 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:01 pm

http://www.ckworldwide.com/200-amps-ck210.html

Just get the proper Dinse size and the 2 piece cable. All set. Its the same cable I run on my Dynasty, though my Dynasty uses a larger Dinse. I use the smaller (35mm) Dinse cable on my MultiMatic. And both use the Flex head torch.
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Re: Which tig torch?

Postby S4m » Mon Apr 17, 2017 5:53 am

Ok so been looking thismorning and i have an adapter that the superflex cable will go onto will attach a pic. So if im right i can buy a ck torch and the superflex line will carry the gas from the adapter meaning i only need a pedal and im sorted? [ attachment=0]20170417_104102.jpg[/attachment]
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Re: Which tig torch?

Postby S4m » Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:01 pm

So i managed to incorporate a ck17 flex head to my current setup with a superflex lead. A million times better! If you hold my existing setup horizontal it stuck out over a foot and a half before it curved down and now its so much better. No excuses now!
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Re: Which tig torch?

Postby cj737 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:56 am

Regardless of the cable type, a flex head TIG torch is the best invention since internal combustion engines 8-)
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