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Everlast powertig 250ex vs HTP invertig 221

Postby nailbanger138 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:07 pm

Hello all, I am looking for some honest feedback on these two machines. Feedback from OWNERS/EXTENSIVE USERS of either of these machines. I have already explored all of the technical specs on my own, so what I am looking for is pros and cons. The duty cycle and extra amperage of the everlast is appealing, but I feel like the quality and service for the htp may be better. I am really interested in a more long term perspective. I have read plenty of comments from people that have had a machine for a month or 2, and use it once a month. How do these compare after a couple years of use. I would probably average 10 to 20 hours of arc time a month on whatever I decide to go with. What are the quirks of either machine? Is the asymmetric ac on the htp useful, or is it a gimmick? Please offer any relevant commentary.
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Re: Everlast powertig 250ex vs HTP invertig 221

Postby Oscar » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:42 pm

Mine is out of warranty, and I don't regret the purchase. Independent Amplitude can be useful if you do a lot of aluminum. I'm not saying it is something that every aluminum welder needs/wants, but it might be useful to you. It does everything it claims to, so no complaints in the spec's department. There are no quirks, at least not in my opinion. Although I will say the amperage display may be a bit off. Mine was off by a few amps, but I'm pretty sure it's just the display. At peak output, it shows 217A or something like that. Am I pissed about it? Nah, 3A or so wouldn't make a difference in the real world. Everything is still up-forth and honest about what it can do. It even runs E6010 stick electrodes. Granted I don't weld very often, but I have put it through it's paces.
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Re: Everlast powertig 250ex vs HTP invertig 221

Postby Simclardy » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:47 pm

I have had the Everlast 250ex for about 3 years trouble free. When I purchased it I took it to my local welding supplier and paid him $100 to load test it and check it all out. I was new to tig so I had no reference. It checked out good except he was not impressed with the "better" pedal. I am used to it now and it's held up with plenty of abuse. I did upgrade to a ck230 super flex 25' torch. Worth every Penney. Can't comment on the other unit.

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Re: Everlast powertig 250ex vs HTP invertig 221

Postby MarkL » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:23 pm

I have been considering buying an Invertig 221 and happen to live close to the company. So I took a 1/2 day tig class they offer so I could spend some time using the machine. I really like it, it has several features I miss on my Lincoln SW 200, such as higher pulse frequency, adjustable %on and background for pulse, control over pre and post flow, control over starting current, and higher range of frequency for AC. The folks there are all nice and it seems like a well run operation. I would not hesitate to buy one. I've bought a lot of small stuff from them over the years, like gas lenses and such.
It also runs on either 110 or 220, which is a must have for me.

I've never used an Everlast, but you might go over on the tractorbynet.com welding forum because everlast is a sponsor there and a lot of guys have experience with them.
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Re: Everlast powertig 250ex vs HTP invertig 221

Postby dgapilot » Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:53 am

For a true comparison, shouldn't you really be comparing the 255EXT to the 221? Looks like you want feedback comparing an analog machine to a digital machine. Don't get me wrong, they both look like nice machines, but just on the digital vs analog I picked the 210EXT vs the 250EX for the digital, and the additional wave forms. It would be nice to have the extra power with a 250 amp machine, but I didn't have the money to jump to the 255EXT. The one thing that is a nice feature on the 221 is the ability to set EN amps and EP amps independently when using AC. The 210EXT and 255EXT don't have that feature. On the other side, the digital Everlast machines offer multiple wave forms that don't appear to be on the 221.

The search for the "perfect" machine can be maddening. Decide on the features you "need", and what your budget is. Then pick the machine that fills the most "needs" and still stays within your budget. Neither machine is a made in America machine, and neither will have the support of blue or red. Both have received some good reviews, both have gotten some bad reviews. Something to consider when buying is weight. Much of the weight on the inverter machines are heat sinks. While a heavier machine may be less portable, it may indicate more cooling capability.

Sticking with a 200 amp machine (the 221 or the 210EXT) will save on the need for a water cooler. Going with the 250EX or 255EXT or another 250 amp machine will require a cooler to take advantage of that extra 50 amps. Add another $400+ to your investment. With a 200 amp machine the cooler would be nice, but not a necessity.


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Re: Everlast powertig 250ex vs HTP invertig 221

Postby nailbanger138 » Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:28 pm

Dgapilot,


How long have you had your machine? I run a syncrowave 200 on a daily basis, so that is really my reference point, but I want something a little more weight and power consumption friendly at home. Regardless of the model, have you had any problems with the everlast, and how did the resolution process go if so?
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Re: Everlast powertig 250ex vs HTP invertig 221

Postby dgapilot » Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:39 pm

I've only had it 2 weeks now, so not a fair trial period. I only use it on weekends, so I'm guessing maybe about 5 hours of run time. So far no problems but have only run D.C. When I was teaching at a college we had 350 syncrowavee, and at one shop I ran we had a 350 syncrowave there too. Another shop I ran had a lincoln 185 that got stolen, so I replaced that with a syncrowave 200. These were aircraft repair shops so they never really saw much use. When I was looking for something for home, I started looking at syncrowaves.


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Re: Everlast powertig 250ex vs HTP invertig 221

Postby dgapilot » Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:00 pm

Continued from above- I ended up with the 210EXT because I liked the availability of the other wave forms and the pulse options. Nothing wrong with the Synchrowaves but for what 10 + year old machines are going for, I could get a new inverter machine and have the advanced features. The Everlast uses less energy, takes up less space, and is more portable. I only use it part time and I'm not really looking to make a career of welding (I'm 64 and looking at this as more something to keep me occupied after I retire (if I ever do).


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Re: Everlast powertig 250ex vs HTP invertig 221

Postby nailbanger138 » Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:44 pm

I get it. I would love to own a Miller, syncrowave or dynasty, but the price tag is way too high. I am not overly impressed with the duty cycle on the syncrowave, and it needs a 90 amp breaker to run at 200 amps for any real amount of time. I work 2 jobs, one is a lot of welding (mainly stainless) with other general maintenance, the other is at a fab'/machine shop- pretty much all I do there is weld. My question, I guess, is more related to real life reliability and service for these machines.
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Re: Everlast powertig 250ex vs HTP invertig 221

Postby dgapilot » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:00 am

Understand. I'm not a good source for that data. I'm hopeful it will last for me.


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