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New to aluminum welding. Need help

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:58 pm
by Groisch
I just started tig welding aluminum and I cannot figure out what I'm doing wrong. The machine is an ahp alpha tig 200x and the setting I've been using are 150 amps, 3/32 blue tungsten, 25 scfh of argon, 120hz and 35% ac balance. I have just been trying to practice on some 4043 1/8 flat bar. As soon as I light the arc no puddle forms and the whole piece of metal melts. Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong. I'll attach a picture below. Thanks.

Re: New to aluminum welding. Need help

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:36 pm
by AndersK
Honestly, it looks like you're welding DC.

Also, such small piece will heat saturate quickly so you need to back off the current a lot when it start melting.

Re: New to aluminum welding. Need help

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:11 pm
by rick9345
6061 ? or hardware store special.

Re: New to aluminum welding. Need help

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:28 pm
by Groisch
rick9345 wrote:6061 ? or hardware store special.
Hardware store special

Re: New to aluminum welding. Need help

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:41 pm
by cj737
I've seen 3000 series aluminum behave like that too. It's a major PITA to weld.

Re: New to aluminum welding. Need help

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 10:23 pm
by thatoneguy
I don't think it's a welding on DC issue... I think your amperage might just be way too high... Or you got some crazy weird aluminum... Try taking a stainless brush and scrub the crab out of it, acetone wipe it really well.

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Re: New to aluminum welding. Need help

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:42 am
by Artie F. Emm
25 cfh argon is high, isn't it? i recall reading that too high a flow rate can draw in ambient atmosphere and contaminate the weld. The Miller weld calculator can provide the proper flow rate.

Also, some flow meters are graduated in liters per minute, rather than cubic ft per hour.

Re: New to aluminum welding. Need help

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:14 am
by Warrenh
I wonder if its some kind of off/on setting where he is getting all 150 amps at the start. I dont know that machine at all.

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Re: New to aluminum welding. Need help

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:18 pm
by 5th Street Fab
Artie F. Emm wrote:25 cfh argon is high, isn't it? i recall reading that too high a flow rate can draw in ambient atmosphere and contaminate the weld. The Miller weld calculator can provide the proper flow rate.

Also, some flow meters are graduated in liters per minute, rather than cubic ft per hour.
Most the guys at my work weld at 25 cfh on aluminum I'm around 15 but it works for them. It'll just be a duller looking weld not as shiny.


When you're welding do you hear an annoying buzz? Or does it sound the same as when you're welding steel?

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Re: New to aluminum welding. Need help

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:03 pm
by Groisch
5th Street Fab wrote:
Artie F. Emm wrote:25 cfh argon is high, isn't it? i recall reading that too high a flow rate can draw in ambient atmosphere and contaminate the weld. The Miller weld calculator can provide the proper flow rate.

Also, some flow meters are graduated in liters per minute, rather than cubic ft per hour.
Most the guys at my work weld at 25 cfh on aluminum I'm around 15 but it works for them. It'll just be a duller looking weld not as shiny.


When you're welding do you hear an annoying buzz? Or does it sound the same as when you're welding steel?

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I know I'm on ac not dc cause I can change the frequency and it sounds different each time