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Congrats poland308 on making a test! Iv done my fair share of r stamp work and I'm always amazed on how much paper is involved.
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Picked this little job up yesterday. Delivered today. Everything went just as planned which was nice since it usually doesn't go that way for me. Especially on aluminum. It was very dirty and oily but it cleaned up good. It's an oil pan for chevy aveo. I didn't think to grind off the weld where the plug goes back in but the mechanic said it was fine. Had a little porosity at the starts but after I ground it out the next weld was fine.
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Tig/stick 14" pipe tie-ins took a picture just off the bottom .
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Bingo wrote:Tig/stick 14" pipe tie-ins took a picture just off the bottom .
That looks nice, way to get it done
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thank you sir.A blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while !
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First bends with the new bender! Image

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I've seen those benders on CL and thought they looked real good for the money. How are they?
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What brand bender is that?
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GreinTime wrote:First bends with the new bender! Image

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Interesting bender! Ive got some questions haha

What's the brand?
Price?
180 dies?
Where to find?


Those bends look nice I don't see any kinks.

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5th Street Fab wrote:
GreinTime wrote:First bends with the new bender! Image

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Interesting bender! Ive got some questions haha

What's the brand?
Price?
180 dies?
Where to find?


Those bends look nice I don't see any kinks.

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I sent you a DM on Instagram with my phone number so you can ask any specific questions you have about the bender, or anything else for that matter.

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RogueFab M600 Tradesmen Set. Typically comes with 1x3.5, 1.25x4.5, 1.5x4.5, 1.75x6, and 2x6 dies. I swapped the 2x6 for the 1.625x6 as I don't feel that we (business partner and I) need at this point. If someone wants anything that big bent, the price of the die will be added to the price of the job.

Price: With roller pressure dies, which are 360 aluminum rollers with the matching tube size that the tube rests on as it pulls through the bender instead of a block with the radius milled in it. Cuts down on friction, allows you to bend stainless or aluminum without scratching it, things like that. Price was $1875, with shipping to my area it was $1987. I believe they are in Oregon actually, so you'd be able to pick it up locally and save some cash. **Also, this was the weld together kit, I'll get it powder coated locally.

Degree: If you could split the die in half on the centerline, you could bend 360. The dies are full diameter of die radius, with the tube profile cut in. Anything over 180 though you'd get stuck.

Where to find: https://www.roguefab.com/product-catego ... g-benders/

I bought the cylinder from Harbor Freight locally to save more money on shipping.

Bend quality is good as you can see. That was 1.5x.120, and bent great. I don't have the degree sticker on there, as I have to get it powder coated yet, but it seems that 0-~90° was one full stroke of the ram. I didn't repin to try and bend any farther, but that was 49 seconds or so with stopping once or twice to check things. The biggest selling point in my mind is that you can bend up to 1.5 solid bar with the HD kit, up to 0.250 wall 1.75, and up to 0.188 wall 2.0.

It's a little awkward to change dies, but it was the first time trying it, it should get easier from there.

I will keep everyone posted, I have a tube front on an S13 Nissan 240sx hatchback to do first, followed by an FD Mazda RX7 (1993 for you old folks who don't know chassis codes) and an 80's AE86 Corolla, back when they were RWD and cool [FACE WITH TEARS OF JOY] So I should be putting it through it's paces pretty quickly.


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Just mucking around with some outside corner joints on 16ga stainless.. I experimented using pulse, as well as filler and no filler joints. All joints were welded with a 3/32" 2% Lanthanated Tungsten, Furick Fupa 12 with aluminium angle for backing. I had 100 amps set on the machine but didn't go anywhere near that..I think I had about 12LPM argon flow.

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1pps, 100 amps, 30% peak current and 20% background current, 1/16" 308L filler:

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I only ran 6 coupons but I can definitely see the benefit that using a smaller diameter tungsten and filler would have on thin material.

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OzFlo wrote:Just mucking around with some outside corner joints on 16ga stainless.. I experimented using pulse, as well as filler and no filler joints. All joints were welded with a 3/32" 2% Lanthanated Tungsten, Furick Fupa 12 with aluminium angle for backing. I had 100 amps set on the machine but didn't go anywhere near that..I think I had about 12LPM argon flow.

I only ran 6 coupons but I can definitely see the benefit that using a smaller diameter tungsten and filler would have on thin material.

Flo
way to lay it down Flo, very nice
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LtBadd wrote: way to lay it down Flo, very nice
Thanks Richard. This is the same material that I'm going to build my water cooler reservoir from so I want to get some good practice before attempting to weld that up. I didn't use any chill bars on the face side of the material when I welded those coupons but definitely will be when I attempt the real thing.

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OzFlo wrote: Thanks Richard. This is the same material that I'm going to build my water cooler reservoir from so I want to get some good practice before attempting to weld that up. I didn't use any chill bars on the face side of the material when I welded those coupons but definitely will be when I attempt the real thing.

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Make sure to document your build, we'll all benefit from it ;)
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Nice job Flo :)
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pgk wrote:Nice job Flo :)
Thanks pgk :D
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Nice welds Flo, hope I can achieve that level of consistency some day


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Thanks David.. I only posted the good ones!! :lol:
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Beautiful work, Flo.



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Was stuck in the shop waiting for deliveries. Got sick of doing paperwork so went into the shop and knocked up a third hand from scrap. The 1/4" round came from a mop squeezer already bent to perfect shape, just had to cut it to length. All three points got aluminium bronzed to eliminate sparking.
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Deliveries came, too late to go back to site and I missed lunch so what would do you think an aussie joker would do about that?
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A few from the week. The first ones were tough. The main tubes were 0.6 mm (0.024") wall. A little nerve racking!

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The rest were a little more chill. Typical 0.7 - 0.8 mm wall.

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Beautiful work as usual Zank!
0.6mm is gettin pretty thin. How does it go for strength, is there a weight limit for the rider?
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Wall thikness dosent efect on the strenght of the pipe, only material and outside diameter. You can apply the same force in pipe or axle... until there is a litle dent in the pipe.


i have made controllarms for race cars with 0.8mm wall thikness pipe, material 4130. Worked great. Cant take any dents, but is same for the stiffness than hevier wall pipe.
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Well you're wrong about that. You're just operating at a lower factor of safety. If you did the strength calculations you would know this to be true.


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Thats true that the longevity of the part goes down with thin wall, but dosent effect the torsional stiffness much. Not problem @ racing (cars.. bikes..)
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