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Re: Can I Weld This Motor Base With MIG?

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:33 pm
by Chips O'Toole
I want to think everyone for their help.

I think I actually succeeded in repairing the base. Notice I didn't say "welding" it. The mess I made is so sloppy, I'm not sure it even qualifies to be called a weld.

I used 308L wire. I had read that non-magnetic stainless was the thing to use. I heated the piece to somewhere above 100 degrees, according to the strange instructions I read elsewhere. Then I did what I ALWAYS DO 100% OF THE TIME. I started welding without turning the gas on.

I ground off as much of the spongy crap as I could and started over, with two small welds on the bottom side. I had the wire feed turned up, according to something I had read. What a mistake. I was only welding a few seconds, but I ended up with big globs again. Back to the grinder.

I beat the globs with a ball peen hammer and then ground off the excess. I never heard the "tinking" sounds you're supposed to hear when cast iron welds break. That's the main reason I'm posting this. I would like to know what went RIGHT. I can't understand why the welds didn't pop. Maybe because they're shallow? I only v'd out maybe 3/32", because I was afraid if I didn't leave some meat it would be hard to hold the pieces together while I welded. As it was, I had to use a Bessey clamp.

I ground off the new globs and did some more welding. Still too much wire, but no popping noises.

I removed as much excess metal as possible and tested the repair by yanking on it and beating it with the handle of the hammer. It's probably the worst weld in the universe, but it's aligned perfectly and will probably work well enough for the purpose of holding a motor down.

I may be able to clean it up some more if I can find the right rotary tool.

This went incredibly well, even though it looks like there is no possible mistake I failed to make.

Re: Can I Weld This Motor Base With MIG?

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:32 pm
by Oscar
I would think that by now, you knowing your yourself, would have put a label on your MIG gun with a note to turn the gas on before squeezing the trigger. :lol:

Re: Can I Weld This Motor Base With MIG?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 12:03 pm
by Chips O'Toole
Oscar wrote:I would think that by now, you knowing your yourself, would have put a label on your MIG gun with a note to turn the gas on before squeezing the trigger. :lol:
You joke, but I was planning to do that today.

Re: Can I Weld This Motor Base With MIG?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:46 pm
by Oscar
Well kinda joking, but serious as well. I mean, it will only help you, right? Especially since you do it "100%" of the time. But don't "plan" on doing it today. Do it. :)

Re: Can I Weld This Motor Base With MIG?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:59 pm
by Chips O'Toole
I don't want to get in trouble with Zod.

Re: Can I Weld This Motor Base With MIG?

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:25 pm
by Chips O'Toole
I wasn't kidding!
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Re: Can I Weld This Motor Base With MIG?

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:12 pm
by MosquitoMoto
Well, I'm glad that worked out well for you.

I only forget the gas...when I'm welding something absolutely critical. If I'm practising or just zapping something of no real consequence, I turn the gas on.

But any time a mate shows up and says something like "I have this hand-formed 1mm thick aluminium aircraft blister cowling that's 75 years old and utterly irreplaceable, do you think you could repair it?" ... THAT is when I will forget to turn the gas on.


Kym

Re: Can I Weld This Motor Base With MIG?

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:10 pm
by Chips O'Toole
That makes complete sense to me.

I prefer not to discuss the time I left the gas ON.

Re: Can I Weld This Motor Base With MIG?

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:54 pm
by Poland308
That is always a sad day. Out to the shop to weld something up quick. Go to turn on the gas and your first thought is who cranked this valve down because I can't open it? Then you realize :evil: it's already on! SOB I'm an idiot!

Re: Can I Weld This Motor Base With MIG?

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:22 pm
by ldbtx
Poland308 wrote:That is always a sad day. Out to the shop to weld something up quick. Go to turn on the gas and your first thought is who cranked this valve down because I can't open it? Then you realize :evil: it's already on! SOB I'm an idiot!
Sure glad I'm not the only one that's done that :D