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Re: Ceramic Weld Spatter Guard

Postby MigMac » Tue Jun 03, 2014 7:22 am

Hi.
The Borniguard ceramic sounds good.
Anybody know where in Detroit I can buy some??

I used a similar product in Europe at a car plant but have not seen it in the States.
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Re: Ceramic Weld Spatter Guard

Postby Fat Bob » Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:40 am

MigMac wrote:Hi.
The Borniguard ceramic sounds good.
Anybody know where in Detroit I can buy some??

I used a similar product in Europe at a car plant but have not seen it in the States.


Welcome to the site Mac. You might try sending them a message on "contact" page of their web site. http://www.borniguard.com/ Tell them your in Detroit and maybe they can tell you a local shop that carries it.
Go break something, then you can weld it back the right way.

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Re: Ceramic Weld Spatter Guard

Postby MigMac » Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:06 pm

Hi
Thanks. I found it in Ann Arbor.
See http://aaweldingsupply.com/products/weld-shield

$25 a can...

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Re: Ceramic Weld Spatter Guard

Postby Superiorwelding » Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:38 pm

Update of ceramic spatter guard; I have been using this product off and on for a while. I am on my second can and am very pleased. While I have not done a lot of spray arc welding, it seems to hold up well to the heat. I have personally talked to Len Allison myself and will say he seems to be a great guy. I highly recommend this product for anyone from the hobbiest to pro. I feel it will save one money in the long run.
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Re: Ceramic Weld Spatter Guard

Postby Otto Nobedder » Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:36 pm

Jonathan,

Thank you for the review.

Have you used it in short-circuit transfer, and does it hold up as well there?

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Re: Ceramic Weld Spatter Guard

Postby Superiorwelding » Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:46 pm

Otto Nobedder wrote:Jonathan,

Thank you for the review.

Have you used it in short-circuit transfer, and does it hold up as well there?

Steve S

Steve,
I have been mostly using it in short-circuit transfer. I have a Bernard eliptical set up I have done nothing but short circuit on and it has help up extremely well. I would say one/two applications will last a 8 hour shift just fine, as long as you don't scratch it all off in cleaning. It takes so very little effort to clean the nozzle. I did do the pipes found toward the end in "what I welded today" in spray and it held up fine. I am beginning to wonder though, if the caramic transfers heat to the neck and gun. In the pic I am using .035 self shield on a friends very rusty trailer and while the ceramic spray is fine my plastic is not. It could be that I am just pushing the gun to much, don't care for the M25 but I didn't want to drag out the 25' gun. I would guess that there is 3-4 hours of actual weld time in the pic. I want to test it at 250+ amps but have not had the opportunity yet.
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Re: Ceramic Weld Spatter Guard

Postby mikek » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:05 pm

Superiorwelding wrote:
Otto Nobedder wrote:Jonathan,

Thank you for the review.

Have you used it in short-circuit transfer, and does it hold up as well there?

Steve S

Steve,
I have been mostly using it in short-circuit transfer. I have a Bernard eliptical set up I have done nothing but short circuit on and it has help up extremely well. I would say one/two applications will last a 8 hour shift just fine, as long as you don't scratch it all off in cleaning. It takes so very little effort to clean the nozzle. I did do the pipes found toward the end in "what I welded today" in spray and it held up fine. I am beginning to wonder though, if the caramic transfers heat to the neck and gun. In the pic I am using .035 self shield on a friends very rusty trailer and while the ceramic spray is fine my plastic is not. It could be that I am just pushing the gun to much, don't care for the M25 but I didn't want to drag out the 25' gun. I would guess that there is 3-4 hours of actual weld time in the pic. I want to test it at 250+ amps but have not had the opportunity yet.
-Jonathan

from your pic i looks like your spraying the entire nozzle on the gun? next time just spray the last inch or so of the nozzle inside and out let it dry and see if it works better
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Re: Ceramic Weld Spatter Guard

Postby Superiorwelding » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:41 pm

mikek wrote:
Superiorwelding wrote:
Otto Nobedder wrote:Jonathan,

Thank you for the review.

Have you used it in short-circuit transfer, and does it hold up as well there?

Steve S

Steve,
I have been mostly using it in short-circuit transfer. I have a Bernard eliptical set up I have done nothing but short circuit on and it has help up extremely well. I would say one/two applications will last a 8 hour shift just fine, as long as you don't scratch it all off in cleaning. It takes so very little effort to clean the nozzle. I did do the pipes found toward the end in "what I welded today" in spray and it held up fine. I am beginning to wonder though, if the caramic transfers heat to the neck and gun. In the pic I am using .035 self shield on a friends very rusty trailer and while the ceramic spray is fine my plastic is not. It could be that I am just pushing the gun to much, don't care for the M25 but I didn't want to drag out the 25' gun. I would guess that there is 3-4 hours of actual weld time in the pic. I want to test it at 250+ amps but have not had the opportunity yet.
-Jonathan

from your pic i looks like your spraying the entire nozzle on the gun? next time just spray the last inch or so of the nozzle inside and out let it dry and see if it works better

I will do that! Do you have any experience with this or a similar product?
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Re: Ceramic Weld Spatter Guard

Postby mikek » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:31 pm

similar product, cant remember what brand anymore. but if you use it properly the fiberglass in the base of the cone will wear out before the cone shows much wear. also did not have much luck spraying the tip (even blocking off the wire hole) good luck have fun!
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Re: Ceramic Weld Spatter Guard

Postby mcoe » Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:25 pm

How is it doing now, any more test results? :)
It's always best to build your own, especially when it comes to hitches!!!
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