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Swivel Head Bandsaw

Postby sru_tx » Thu May 11, 2017 8:56 am

Looking for feedback on the smaller swivel head bandsaws, particularly the Baileigh BS-128M. Are they accurate? Will they return to square if swiveled to cut an angle?

I currently have an old Jet horizontal bandsaw, 64.5" blade, the typical 4x6. I work out of my garage making custom furniture and creating pieces on spec... whatever pops out of my brain. I have very limited space, all of my metalworking and woodworking tools are on wheels so I can pull out what i need, use it and then put it away. The little 4x6 slots into a small space perfectly.

The problem is that I find that I am doing quite a few curvy pieces of furniture which entail angled/mitered cuts on mostly square tubing. Cutting accurate angles on my saw is a painful process of wrenches, protractors, etc. and resetting back to square is just as tedious.

While a cold saw, dry saw, or chop saw setup will do the angles, I don't really want to deal with the noise and metal chips flying all over my workspace. An Ellis saw would be a dream but I don't have space for one at this time.

So I'm wondering if these smaller swivel head saws like the BS128M will cut square and return to square if swiveled? I have found a pair of these Baileighs for a decent price and am wondering if I should sell my Jet and get one of these or should I just hold my nickels until I figure out how to store a nicer Ellis-type machine?

thanks.
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Re: Swivel Head Bandsaw

Postby electrode » Sat May 13, 2017 9:25 am

sru_tx wrote:Looking for feedback on the smaller swivel head bandsaws, particularly the Baileigh BS-128M. Are they accurate? Will they return to square if swiveled to cut an angle?

I currently have an old Jet horizontal bandsaw, 64.5" blade, the typical 4x6. I work out of my garage making custom furniture and creating pieces on spec... whatever pops out of my brain. I have very limited space, all of my metalworking and woodworking tools are on wheels so I can pull out what i need, use it and then put it away. The little 4x6 slots into a small space perfectly.

The problem is that I find that I am doing quite a few curvy pieces of furniture which entail angled/mitered cuts on mostly square tubing. Cutting accurate angles on my saw is a painful process of wrenches, protractors, etc. and resetting back to square is just as tedious.

While a cold saw, dry saw, or chop saw setup will do the angles, I don't really want to deal with the noise and metal chips flying all over my workspace. An Ellis saw would be a dream but I don't have space for one at this time.

So I'm wondering if these smaller swivel head saws like the BS128M will cut square and return to square if swiveled? I have found a pair of these Baileighs for a decent price and am wondering if I should sell my Jet and get one of these or should I just hold my nickels until I figure out how to store a nicer Ellis-type machine?

thanks.
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I was going to suggest the Ellis myself when I read the first sentence then realized you already knew of it. No info on the Baileigh that I can add. I too, will buy an Ellis for my next saw. :)
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Re: Swivel Head Bandsaw

Postby jimcaf » Mon May 15, 2017 3:16 am

sru_tx wrote:Looking for feedback on the smaller swivel head bandsaws, particularly the Baileigh BS-128M. Are they accurate? Will they return to square if swiveled to cut an angle?

I currently have an old Jet horizontal bandsaw, 64.5" blade, the typical 4x6. I work out of my garage making custom furniture and creating pieces on spec... whatever pops out of my brain. I have very limited space, all of my metalworking and woodworking tools are on wheels so I can pull out what i need, use it and then put it away. The little 4x6 slots into a small space perfectly.

The problem is that I find that I am doing quite a few curvy pieces of furniture which entail angled/mitered cuts on mostly square tubing. Cutting accurate angles on my saw is a painful process of wrenches, protractors, etc. and resetting back to square is just as tedious.

While a cold saw, dry saw, or chop saw setup will do the angles, I don't really want to deal with the noise and metal chips flying all over my workspace. An Ellis saw would be a dream but I don't have space for one at this time.

So I'm wondering if these smaller swivel head saws like the BS128M will cut square and return to square if swiveled? I have found a pair of these Baileighs for a decent price and am wondering if I should sell my Jet and get one of these or should I just hold my nickels until I figure out how to store a nicer Ellis-type machine?

thanks.
steve



I hear good things about these http://www.trick-tools.com/Femi_782XL_B ... 0_000_2209
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Re: Swivel Head Bandsaw

Postby Otto Nobedder » Mon May 15, 2017 7:00 pm

Welcome, Jim,

That's an interesting little machine you shared. I'm sure it will serve someone well, and I hope folks will look at it.

If you'll study the topic you're replying on, you'll find the OP has far better equipment with much more capacity than what you've shared. He's looking for a vertical bandsaw that will tilt, and have a fixed, reliable, repeatable return to vertical in at least the same capacity as he already owns.

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Re: Swivel Head Bandsaw

Postby Coolidge » Mon May 15, 2017 8:59 pm

There's an Ellis 1100 for sale on my local craigslist for $750 they do pop up. https://portland.craigslist.org/clc/tls/6131561306.html

I went with this one, a lot more money of course but more compact and mobile.

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Here's the test cut they did on it at the factory, its about .040 thick, accuracy over 3 inches about .003 variance.

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Re: Swivel Head Bandsaw

Postby sru_tx » Tue May 16, 2017 9:13 am

Thanks for the input y'all!
Coolidge that Jet looks like a very nice saw. Impressive accuracy. I've been watching for Ellis and nothing pops up around here.
Jim, Steve is correct that I need a little more capacity than that saw.

I decided to buy the two saws yesterday from a local company getting rid of them. Both were practically new. Hardly a scratch in the paint on either one. One saw was dissassembled and put on a pallet with supposedly a "bad" motor. When I got home I pulled it off of the pallet and the thing fired right up. The blade jammed immediately but with a bit of tracking adjustment it appeared to run just fine. I'll tune up both saws, pick one to keep and sell the other. For the price I paid I should be able to sell one of the saws and my Jet and recoup a fair amount of my expenses.

I believe this saw is going to fill the bill.The footprint and height is only slightly larger than my horizontal Jet which is perfect for my space. A big feature other than the swivel head is that the vise always clamps squarely to the material. On a non-swivel saw, cutting at angles means the fence moves but the clamping jaw doesn't move with it. As you cut steeper angles, tighter clamping forces result in the material creeping in the vise instead of staying put. It's a small subtlety that I didn't appreciate until I saw it... now I say to myself "Duuuuhhhh" :lol:

I will try to follow up on this thread later on as I use it.

Thanks.
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