Just a standard Murex pocket (assuming you're a kangaroo) guide book printed on an ancient material called paper. You can google paper up and learn about it.
LinKon now owns Murex, and they sort of duplicated the rod guide for people with phones smarter than they are.
http://www.lincolnelectric.com/assets/u ... e/c110.pdf
They have another pdf that young fellows should have too
http://www.lincolnelectric.com/assets/u ... /c2410.pdf
Between the 2 a man could probably make a living.
Haha I'm shocked your copy wasn't hand lettered on ancient papyrusFranz© wrote:Just a standard Murex pocket (assuming you're a kangaroo) guide book printed on an ancient material called paper. You can google paper up and learn about it.
LinKon now owns Murex, and they sort of duplicated the rod guide for people with phones smarter than they are.
http://www.lincolnelectric.com/assets/u ... e/c110.pdf
They have another pdf that young fellows should have too
http://www.lincolnelectric.com/assets/u ... /c2410.pdf
Between the 2 a man could probably make a living.
Have you ever made made your own paper, and bound a book from scratch? I have. I could teach you a thing or two about planing for creep, sewing signatures, and perfect binding them together. It's an art form in itself. So before you get too excited about that horrible mechanically-made guide book you love, you may want to slow down and learn the basics of were books come from and how they're really made, by craftsmen. Maybe build one for two yourself before you start casually turning pages and talking too glibly about paper and books.
You see Franz, it's all in the tone. You seem like you know what your talking about, but boy, that tone sure makes the information you share about 50% less interesting to follow. Lighten your shade up a few clicks, would ya?
Since you were talking about O/A, I also found this: http://www.murexwelding.co.uk/gb/en/sup ... y-Fuel.pdf
Here's some stuff from Murex about stick:
https://www.scribd.com/document/3536853 ... R-2008-pdf
Thank for the other links, I'll take a look.
Datsun510 wrote:Haha I'm shocked your copy wasn't hand lettered on ancient papyrusFranz© wrote:Just a standard Murex pocket (assuming you're a kangaroo) guide book printed on an ancient material called paper. You can google paper up and learn about it.
LinKon now owns Murex, and they sort of duplicated the rod guide for people with phones smarter than they are.
http://www.lincolnelectric.com/assets/u ... e/c110.pdf
They have another pdf that young fellows should have too
http://www.lincolnelectric.com/assets/u ... /c2410.pdf
Between the 2 a man could probably make a living.
Have you ever made made your own paper, and bound a book from scratch? I have. I could teach you a thing or two about planing for creep, sewing signatures, and perfect binding them together. It's an art form in itself. So before you get too excited about that horrible mechanically-made guide book you love, you may want to slow down and learn the basics of were books come from and how they're really made, by craftsmen. Maybe build one for two yourself before you start casually turning pages and talking too glibly about paper and books.
You see Franz, it's all in the tone. You seem like you know what your talking about, but boy, that tone sure makes the information you share about 50% less interesting to follow. Lighten your shade up a few clicks, would ya?
Since you were talking about O/A a bit ago, I also found this: http://www.murexwelding.co.uk/gb/en/sup ... y-Fuel.pdf
Here's some stuff from Murex about stick:
https://www.scribd.com/document/3536853 ... R-2008-pdf
Thank for the other links, I'll take a look.
Haha I'm shocked your copy wasn't hand lettered on ancient papyrus
Have you ever made made your own paper, and bound a book from scratch? I have. I could teach you a thing or two about planing for creep, sewing signatures, and perfect binding them together. It's an art form in itself. So before you get too excited about that horrible mechanically-made guide book you love, you may want to slow down and learn the basics of were books come from and how they're really made, by craftsmen. Maybe build one for two yourself before you start casually turning pages and talking too glibly about paper and books.
You see Franz, it's all in the tone. You seem like you know what your talking about, but boy, that tone sure makes the information you share about 50% less interesting to follow. Lighten your shade up a few clicks, would ya?
Since you were talking about O/A, I also found this: http://www.murexwelding.co.uk/gb/en/sup ... y-Fuel.pdf
Here's some stuff from Murex about stick:
https://www.scribd.com/document/3536853 ... R-2008-pdf
Thank for the other links, I'll take a look.[/quote]
Naw, I'm too old to lighten up, got too many things to accomplish before I lay down too.
Ol Pete and I came to be good buds, but he saved both the clay and papyrus copies for his sons to inherit. Boys didn't amount to much, one became a Union Electrician, and the other grew into a desk job.
About that paper making, you talking wood fiber or rice? I presume you're laying it on a screen and going sheet by sheet. Personally I have little love for rice paper, more of a rag content wood pulp man myself.
Did you ever try making rayon?
Wish you'd have come along back around 04, I had most of a hand bindery to get rid of when I was liquidating the estate of a man who I suspect counterfeited a number of books from the War of Northern Aggression era. Took me a while to figure out what he was up to as we pulled equipment out of the barn he had it stored in. Something like 6 book presses stashed. At first I thought they were copiers, but I figured it out. I have neither patience or space for binding books.
Did you ever apply gold leaf to leather cover and emboss? That looked interesting too, just never got to try it. Closest I ever came was assisting the wife to make a quilted cover for the scrapbook she assembled on building a double wedding ring quilt for the kid's wedding present. That was fun.
Have you ever made made your own paper, and bound a book from scratch? I have. I could teach you a thing or two about planing for creep, sewing signatures, and perfect binding them together. It's an art form in itself. So before you get too excited about that horrible mechanically-made guide book you love, you may want to slow down and learn the basics of were books come from and how they're really made, by craftsmen. Maybe build one for two yourself before you start casually turning pages and talking too glibly about paper and books.
You see Franz, it's all in the tone. You seem like you know what your talking about, but boy, that tone sure makes the information you share about 50% less interesting to follow. Lighten your shade up a few clicks, would ya?
Since you were talking about O/A, I also found this: http://www.murexwelding.co.uk/gb/en/sup ... y-Fuel.pdf
Here's some stuff from Murex about stick:
https://www.scribd.com/document/3536853 ... R-2008-pdf
Thank for the other links, I'll take a look.[/quote]
Naw, I'm too old to lighten up, got too many things to accomplish before I lay down too.
Ol Pete and I came to be good buds, but he saved both the clay and papyrus copies for his sons to inherit. Boys didn't amount to much, one became a Union Electrician, and the other grew into a desk job.
About that paper making, you talking wood fiber or rice? I presume you're laying it on a screen and going sheet by sheet. Personally I have little love for rice paper, more of a rag content wood pulp man myself.
Did you ever try making rayon?
Wish you'd have come along back around 04, I had most of a hand bindery to get rid of when I was liquidating the estate of a man who I suspect counterfeited a number of books from the War of Northern Aggression era. Took me a while to figure out what he was up to as we pulled equipment out of the barn he had it stored in. Something like 6 book presses stashed. At first I thought they were copiers, but I figured it out. I have neither patience or space for binding books.
Did you ever apply gold leaf to leather cover and emboss? That looked interesting too, just never got to try it. Closest I ever came was assisting the wife to make a quilted cover for the scrapbook she assembled on building a double wedding ring quilt for the kid's wedding present. That was fun.
Naw, I'm too old to lighten up, got too many things to accomplish before I lay down too.Franz© wrote:Haha I'm shocked your copy wasn't hand lettered on ancient papyrus
Have you ever made made your own paper, and bound a book from scratch? I have. I could teach you a thing or two about planing for creep, sewing signatures, and perfect binding them together. It's an art form in itself. So before you get too excited about that horrible mechanically-made guide book you love, you may want to slow down and learn the basics of were books come from and how they're really made, by craftsmen. Maybe build one for two yourself before you start casually turning pages and talking too glibly about paper and books.
You see Franz, it's all in the tone. You seem like you know what your talking about, but boy, that tone sure makes the information you share about 50% less interesting to follow. Lighten your shade up a few clicks, would ya?
Since you were talking about O/A, I also found this: http://www.murexwelding.co.uk/gb/en/sup ... y-Fuel.pdf
Here's some stuff from Murex about stick:
https://www.scribd.com/document/3536853 ... R-2008-pdf
Thank for the other links, I'll take a look.
Ol Pete and I came to be good buds, but he saved both the clay and papyrus copies for his sons to inherit. Boys didn't amount to much, one became a Union Electrician, and the other grew into a desk job.
About that paper making, you talking wood fiber or rice? I presume you're laying it on a screen and going sheet by sheet. Personally I have little love for rice paper, more of a rag content wood pulp man myself.
Did you ever try making rayon?
Wish you'd have come along back around 04, I had most of a hand bindery to get rid of when I was liquidating the estate of a man who I suspect counterfeited a number of books from the War of Northern Aggression era. Took me a while to figure out what he was up to as we pulled equipment out of the barn he had it stored in. Something like 6 book presses stashed. At first I thought they were copiers, but I figured it out. I have neither patience or space for binding books.
Did you ever apply gold leaf to leather cover and emboss? That looked interesting too, just never got to try it. Closest I ever came was assisting the wife to make a quilted cover for the scrapbook she assembled on building a double wedding ring quilt for the kid's wedding present. That was fun.[/quote]
Agreed on the wood pulp, and never got as far as leather work, though it intrigues me to no end.
Well, I think this is a good place to end this thread, and get back to the topic at hand.
I'll be buying some scrap materials and making a mess of them this weekend. I'll post some progress on my other thread.